Neoprene Puzzle Pieces / Spice + Ambien

[idtravlr]

This is two part report from last nights journey. It's a bit long, but interesting:

1st - I frequently end up in this "area" of hyperspace where there are floating and rotating (seemingly 4D), pastel colored geometric shapes floating all around me. There is always an entity there showing them to me, and making them pass through one another, and morph in a way that only a 4D or greater type of object can do. They look like digital animation. It's like the entity is saying (and showing me), look what's possible in this world. Last night these shapes went from random geometric shapes to chairs of various types, from big cushy easy chair types, to solid wooden-type chairs, and eventually to a high-chair with a baby in it! The baby was more like a rag-doll type of baby however, but it seemed to be "alive" and not just a doll. It was strange, I was getting a definite "message", but I'm not sure what it was.

I'm curious if anyone else sees these shapes though. They look like they are stamped out of thick, colored neoprene. Have you ever seen those multi-colored neoprene puzzles they make for toddlers? They look exactly like they are made out of that, except they are not puzzle pieces, they are geometric shapes, and they are clearly beyond 3D. Anyone know what I'm talking about? I go to this place frequently. It's a nice, warm, and comforting place as well.

2nd - I have hesitated about posting this for a long time now, because it seems somewhat irresponsible, but on a few occasions I have vaped my spice shortly after taking an Ambien pill (Zolpidem). Last night was one of those times. A constant theme that I have when I do this, is that I see "visions", and not just "visuals". I see real world places, like waterfalls in the rain forest, or rivers and streams. These visions are not digitized, or animated in any way, they are like real world visions, like I am just flying or floating above these places and watching the scenery.

Last night, after I passed through the geometric neoprene phase, I went to a very old SE Asian fishing village of some sort. It felt like Thailand. There were people in a small wooden fishing boat along side the dock, but the boat was being crushed between the dock and a large concrete or steel structure, and the people inside were getting smashed in the boat. I felt like I needed to help them, but I was floating in the air, well above them, and I didn't know how to get down to them to help. I really feel like it was some kind of symbolism. Perhaps a reminder of how hard people are working, and struggling through life all over the world. Perhaps it was a reminder of the struggles that are going on elsewhere in the world. I don't really know, but I took it as a message that I need to do more to help people in the world who need it. I felt like I needed to buy a plane ticket and fly straight to Haiti to help with the earthquake relief.

Anyway, the Ambien thing is really bizarre. I'm not recommending or advocating doing this, but if one is so inclined, please let me know about your experience! These visions are EXTREMELY realistic, and I usually completely lose track of the fact that I am seeing them through my minds eye. I always literally and consciously think that I am really there, and don't even realize that I am in my house until I come back a little. Usually the visions are quite peaceful, but last night was the first time I saw struggle and hardship. Perhaps this is due to the state of the world right now.

Those of you that are still reading. Thanks for hanging in there on this loooong report.

Peace & Love!
-idt

 

[Phlux-]

i cant say that i agree with taking ambien with spice but that was an awesome read dude.
your very lucky to have such peace so often - my experiences vary so damn much.

 

[۩]

Maybe this has to do with what mode the central nervous system is operating in.
Very relaxed states lower the oscillation of the operating frequency, thus creating a calm and dreamy state.
Ayahuasca does this, and maybe taking these weird pills produces a similar dreamy relaxation.
Ayahuasca also produces deep visions from around the world like you describe.

So...this is just what I think of when I read this.

Also there was recently a thread about a troubling experience where someone burned their spice.
This "OH SHIT" mindstate will jump you into your highest operating frequency, increase your heart rate, possibly even pump adrenaline, etc.
Staying confident, calm, with a slow breath (which slows the heart) is very important, in my opinion.


So folks, practice pranayama, drink ayahuasca, etc. Cool report, though!

 

[Shpongle]

Yeah let me give you my recent interpretations of the DMT experience:!:

I was reading the thread holders post above and it was like being there. I could almost see my past experiences, which was awesome. Lately the room around me has taken on a vibrant shade of white and thin microscopic puzzle edges will start to vibrate out of them. This is different from oozing out effects during different other psychedelic experiences.
The vibrations have this little game they like to play with one another until they gently yet maniacally slam out of control and then twirl in and around one another, in genuine hallucinatory fathoms.


I love DMT

 

[ragabr]

cool report. if the spice hasn't communicated a problem with the ambian, i'm certainly not going to knock it. really interesting, and i hope others who use ambian can comment. be well!

 

[idtravlr]

Maybe this has to do with what mode the central nervous system is operating in.
Very relaxed states lower the oscillation of the operating frequency, thus creating a calm and dreamy state.
Ayahuasca does this, and maybe taking these weird pills produces a similar dreamy relaxation.
Ayahuasca also produces deep visions from around the world like you describe.

So...this is just what I think of when I read this.

Also there was recently a thread about a troubling experience where someone burned their spice.
This "OH SHIT" mindstate will jump you into your highest operating frequency, increase your heart rate, possibly even pump adrenaline, etc.
Staying confident, calm, with a slow breath (which slows the heart) is very important, in my opinion.


So folks, practice pranayama, drink ayahuasca, etc. Cool report, though!

I just love reading your replies! You have so much insight to offer. I can't remember the post now, but you responded to someone's the other day, and I was like DAMN, that makes so much sense! (It may have been olympus mon's post) Always a pleasurable read!

I also wonder (from a psychological standpoint) if the effects of the Ambien cause the spice to fire along some different neural pathways...

Peace,
-idt

 

[Xt]

I too have been showed various morphing 4d hypserspace objects. They seem to be somewhat cubed but always changing. They contain shapes of a hand, a head, almost a person but each part being shown before the next inside this cube. The visions are almost always purples, navy blues, and white. With wireframe lines of purple or blues. Its always an entity showing me this object. I saw it various times with changa and once on a particularly intense Yopo breakthrough.

I Wish i could paint what ive seen. But its so strange ive heard this vision mentioned elsewhere too.

 

[mad_banshee]

I too have been showed various morphing 4d hypserspace objects. They seem to be somewhat cubed but always changing. They contain shapes of a hand, a head, almost a person but each part being shown before the next inside this cube. The visions are almost always purples, navy blues, and white. With wireframe lines of purple or blues. Its always an entity showing me this object. I saw it various times with changa and once on a particularly intense Yopo breakthrough.

I Wish i could paint what ive seen. But its so strange ive heard this vision mentioned elsewhere too.

When I'm on for a good breakthru, I see the 4d hyperspace geometric objects and also what seems to be a hand with the index finger pointed up as is to say focus.....focus...on these objects, and if its right I break right thru these objects into a Nother world.
Ambien didn't do much for me for sleep relief, so I use Lunesta. Lunesta is fantastic as a sleep aid but is considered a psychotropic drug. ( not that I really understand what that means.) But I can tell you that Lunesta is not habit forming, but is hard to wean off without having the most psychotic dreams. Its fine while you take it, but try to sleep without it after a few nights and I've woken up in cold sweats with wild dreams and not knowing if its real for a minute or so.
I would be VERY worried that spice and Lunesta or Ambien could make you wake up at the police station naked, babbling, and drooling....please be careful. You might scare the shit out of the "normal" drone people and at the same time end up with real legal and financial hassles from those who just don't understand ( and never will understand ) the beauty of entheogenic journeys and those whose sole purpose in life is to prosecute you.
Be cool, be careful.

 

[idtravlr]

cool report. if the spice hasn't communicated a problem with the ambian, i'm certainly not going to knock it. really interesting, and i hope others who use ambian can comment. be well!

Yeah, the first time I did this it was by accident. I took an ambien and was going to go to bed about 30 - 45 min later. I had actually forgotten that I had taken it, and the spice just called to me unexpectedly, so into hyperspace I rode. The experience was so completely unique compared to what I had been used to that when I came out of it I was like... "Huh? Where am I? Where did I just go?" It was truly like I was in an alternate reality, so fully conscious that I was shocked to find that I was in my house when I came back. Then I remembered I had taken the ambien. It was so uniquely visionary that, in the name of science I had to try it again to make sure it was in fact the ambien. So I've experimented a few times since, and sure enough...

Like I said originally however, I'm not advocating it what so ever, but I did feel that these experiences needed to be shared. For those who don't know, Ambien is a sleep aid, classified as a hypnotic, similar to a benzo, but much stronger and not nearly as addictive.

EDIT: Oh, and with regard to shapes I'm talking about, I know what you guys are saying, I see those things too, especially the hand and index finger, but it's usually pointing at me, and creating goo and jimjam, and throwing it at me like taffy (this is usually on sub-breakthrough doses for me though.
These "stamped neoprene" objects are different however. They are solid, not transparent at all, usually in pastel colors of yellows, reds, blues and greens, and typically in simple shapes like rectangles with holes in them, or triangles, or circles. They are very similar to Lego blocks, but thinner and softer, like neoprene. I always feel like I am in an entities home or something when I'm in this place.

Peace,
-idt

 

[mad_banshee]

EDIT: Oh, and with regard to shapes I'm talking about, I know what you guys are saying, I see those things too, especially the hand and index finger, but it's usually pointing at me, and creating goo and jimjam, and throwing it at me like taffy (this is usually on sub-breakthrough doses for me though.
These "stamped neoprene" objects are different however. They are solid, not transparent at all, usually in pastel colors of yellows, reds, blues and greens, and typically in simple shapes like rectangles with holes in them, or triangles, or circles. They are very similar to Lego blocks, but thinner and softer, like neoprene. I always feel like I am in an entities home or something when I'm in this place.

Peace,
-idt

I'm SO glad to hear that someone else sees the hand. To me its like the hand is saying wait...wait...focus...focus...then I go. Sometimes if I have a good dose I see the hand very briefly, but blast right past it on the way into hyperspace. Neoprene is a good way to describe the objects.
Another thing about the hand that I have been grappling with is that I think it represents perfection for me in some way. We spend out entire lives looking for and living for the right moments. This is what we do EVERYTHING for, what we work for and what we try to play well for. Spice gives us an internal moment of harmony that we want but unlike all the other moments in life that we can get away with half paying attention to, this moment of spice is EVERYThING at that moment...the singularity...the "God" moment in which we must ( and willingly) give all our attention.