Never ever entitities

[venom]

I read so much that people encounter entities,
I have smoked my fair share and broke through alot but i never came close to another entity
or machine elve or whatever..
I allways see space collapsing on itself, machines, that make weird noises and i know then that they create and maintain the universe.
But all i see is colors, machines, very bizar geometrical stuff but its like nobody wants to have a contact with me
Are there more pple who experience the same?

 

[sarek]

Look closer. Smoalk Moar.

It took me quite a few trips to become aware of the entities that are running the machines. It definitely varies person to person though. Maybe they're waiting for you to notice them, it's hard to say.

 

[moniker]

I personally don't think that upping your dose is the most effective way to view entities....My humble advice is to smoke some caapi based changa or try some ayahuasca some time.

Also..... your closing your eyes during the experience right?

and relax about it....ever hear the saying that "when the student is ready a teacher will appear" ????

 

[Global]

I say consider yourself lucky for now. Entities can complicate matters considerably, and once you get them, you might wish they hadn't started showing up.

 

[venom]

thx for advices,
on ayahuasca no entities, only when i took anahuasca ( 300mg harmala alk. + 5 gr mimosa ). Then i saw the most evil lizzard people u could imagine.
Pharmahuasca ( strong dose ): no entities.
changa: no entitities

I ask alot to show themselves to me please, i would love that, but it all goes too fast in my brain, i go from machines, to colors, and forget the previous, and so on and on...

 

[fourthripley]

Don't remember where I read it but Jonathan Ott has said he has never encountered anything he considers to be an entity.

 

[Ayawasqero]

thx for advices,
on ayahuasca no entities, only when i took anahuasca ( 300mg harmala alk. + 5 gr mimosa ). Then i saw the most evil lizzard people u could imagine.
Pharmahuasca ( strong dose ): no entities.
changa: no entitities

I ask alot to show themselves to me please, i would love that, but it all goes too fast in my brain, i go from machines, to colors, and forget the previous, and so on and on...

Better evil entity than none.

 

[nicechrisman]

Weird. I've only smoked DMT 2 times, and have never really "broke through" but the 2nd time, I encountered what I might consider an entity.

I saw a hexagonal field, with each side of it it again being it's own hexagon. There was an African drummer in the center of it just drumming away. I could feel a personality and wordless communication with it. Hard to describe I guess, but it was pretty neat.

 

[moniker]

thx for advices,
on ayahuasca no entities, only when i took anahuasca ( 300mg harmala alk. + 5 gr mimosa ). Then i saw the most evil lizzard people u could imagine.
Pharmahuasca ( strong dose ): no entities.
changa: no entitities

I ask alot to show themselves to me please, i would love that, but it all goes too fast in my brain, i go from machines, to colors, and forget the previous, and so on and on...

The ayahuasca should really contain caapi...."harmala alks" isn't exactly what I'm suggesting and IMO it produces a different result than if you use caapi in the mix.

and plus how can you say never ever when you have seen lizard people? Ugly entities still count as entities. Isn't it safe to assume that if there is "evil" entities then there must be good ones as well?

-peace

 

[Mickey_Mouse_33]

I say consider yourself lucky for now. Entities can complicate matters considerably, and once you get them, you might wish they hadn't started showing up.

Can you speak just a little more by what you mean by this? The seemingly living energies I have encountered have for the vast majority felt loving and benevolent, even though they seem to enjoy probing my head with lasers for some hidden purpose haha.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

I'm with moniker...

You say you saw lizard people. How is that "never ever entities?"

I will also add that the folding rooms and machines that you see in hyperspace are themselves intelligent and sentient. It took me a few trips into hyperspace to grok this. They are so fundamentally non-human that it is hard to recognize them for what they are. We are hard-wired to expect our "entities" to be bipedal and humanoid. We can accept odd faces and mix and match elements... we have all seen Star Wars, but these object devas can be tough to acknowledge at first.

If you try, you will find that the folding rooms and machines in hyperspace can all communicate with you... telepathically and via directly showing you visions. They can download info into your dome even.

I think you probably have met some of the more humanoid hyperspace denizens TBH... it is just that you don't remember having met them at this point. There could be lots of reasons for this, but often newcomers to these multidimensional spaces simply can not integrate their multi-dimensional experiences into their regular conscious mind. Thus, you will only remember what happened to you in hyperspace the next time you are there... and then likely you will forget most of that again. It is a lot like dreaming in this way. You wake up remembering only the last few seconds of your dreaming and think that is all that happened. When we can prove that you spend many hours in REM sleep... and that such dreams are time dilated to the extent that this time could be experienced as days worth of info... or more.

Anyway, I hope you find what you need. The entities will reveal themselves to you when the time is right.

HF

 

[Bill Cipher]

Let go of your expectations and stop comparing your experiences to the metaphorical reports of others. Try not to impose your own preconceptions on it. The experience just is what it is.

 

[Global]

I say consider yourself lucky for now. Entities can complicate matters considerably, and once you get them, you might wish they hadn't started showing up.

Can you speak just a little more by what you mean by this? The seemingly living energies I have encountered have for the vast majority felt loving and benevolent, even though they seem to enjoy probing my head with lasers for some hidden purpose haha.

I'm mostly with you, but I feel that when you introduce the possibility of intentionality (not your own) then it just can make things a bit sticky. Don't get me wrong, much of my best experiences have been from entity encounters, but then again, so have my worst.

 

[Doodazzle]

Global and Hyperspace Fool are making sense to me here.


I often encounter a world of transformative jimjam, entities meld out of this crystaline fractal matrix and melt back in...man, everything is made out of consciousness, in a real and immediate way. When the entities actually manifest, in a more cohesive and consistant manner, forming more or less discreet personalities, and directly address me-- things tend to get more complicated. Good, bad, neither, both or maybe--but more complicated, almost always.

I've had interactions with entities that then take me years, over a decade even, to try and process, make sense out of, integrate.

Enjoy it--Don't go desperately seeking out and chasing "entities" just relax, enjoy, don't panic Maybe what you are getting is just what you need, for you, right now.

 

[SKA]

Of all the people I know who have smoalked DMT, only few encountered entities.

Most of them are not DMT enthusiasts and have smoalked it only a few times when it was offered to them.
Many of them abuse many kinds of horrible, consciousness narrowing drugs too like Cocaine, Amphetamines & Alcohol.
This will most certainly dampen the visions brought on by DMT, making them more random, shapeless and meaningless.

I have seen many entities, but not the first 2 times. The 3d time I saw nothing but entities and after that
I allways encountered entities, usually urgently trying to communicate with me visually/symbolically & cognitively.
Alot of people also don't have the patience to get the maximum out of DMT. Their intentions are too Hedonistic,
seeking fireworks, pretty colors and ignorance. They don't have the patience to train their mind to better weather DMT exeriences & enable deeper, more meaningfull visions of Entities nor are they see the value in the spiritual lessons that can be learned from such visions

Having an entity rich, meaningfull DMT experience has alot to do with being in a clear, peacefull & undistracted mindstate. Allthough DMT's effects are powerfull, the best of DMT's effects are most subtile and easy to miss when you're distracted or freak out under the pressure. In this finer, more subtle half of DMT's effects is where the visions of entities take place. Most people who have smoalked DMT never get there.
Also knowing how to react(or rather how NOT to react ) to DMT's emotionally overwhelming effects has alot to
do with wether you'll have a clear, meaningfull trip or a wild, mindless one.

Having smoalked DMT more than a few times can teach you that desirably state of mind and how to maintain it throughout the DMT experience, no matter how wild it gets.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

And also SKA, I believe there is a significant amount of memory loss... or rather the inability to recall all of the multi-dimensional info you receive while here.

It really is a lot like dreaming in this way. Most people remember such a ridiculously tiny fraction of what they dream and also what they experience in hyperspace. People who report that they have not had entity encounters may very well have had a number of them, IMHO. If the entity you meet doesn't want you to recall the encounter or has planted time-lapse info in your dome... you will probably not remember the encounter... not without developing that ability anyway.

One thing I love about the Nexus... when I say far out shit like that, most of the people here, know exactly what I am talking about.

 

[olympus mon]

Its the same problem many people have with ayahausca. Most people that drink don't see plant and/or other spirits/entities if they only drink a dozen times or so. Some do. I saw serpents and plant spirits my first time in a traditional ceremony but never in all my home solo aya missions.

With DMT, there are the 2 big jaw dropping experiences, Breakthroughs and contact. Some times they happen at the same time sometimes they are separate expereinces but both leave you scratching your head in awe.

I agree with most things people are telling you here. Do not put expectations or compare your experiences to others. Although Im a huge fan of T.M. definitely dont listen to him regarding DMT. I dont agree with so many things he speaks about and at least early on it was clear from his words he was burning the shit out of his DMT. Ive never seen or heard what he describes on DMT and thats normal as we all have very personally unique experiences but he speaks as if its the way he describes across the board for everyone and its most certainly is NOT.

Its y opinion that they will come in due time if you work with and listen to the molecule. Breakthrough can be more or less ensured but contact is not up to us. IMO, and Im sure to have many people disagree with me on this statement is that intentions dont mean squat as far as setting what you wish to see, or know. It goes where it goes and in the past 4 years the only intention I set while clearing my mind before a journey is show me what you feel is best.

As H.F. said it sounds like you have already made contact but IMO your dismissing this because it doesn't match other peoples descriptions. Don't do that. Cheersih what you get no matter what that is or is not.

 

[venom]

I'm with moniker...

You say you saw lizard people. How is that "never ever entities?"

yeah but that was on anahuasca (harmala alk. + mimosa ).
I mean when i smoke it =)
And i only ask this because i am a huge fan of mckenna,
i do understand that the machines i see, can be entities, but they are no way the description that mckenna gives.
Maybe it is something u cant predict, but i would love to go through what he calls the self shifting machine elves that bounce in ur chest
I do see entitities, no doubt, but they are allways stationary, they dont conversate with me, dont try to make this 'faberge' eggs hhehe.
And i did smoke alot yet, with the machine, clean vapour, no coughing, sometimes 4 or 5 filled lunges..
Well if i meet them i will tell

 

[Ryusaki]

Expectations....
Let them go.

 

[Doodazzle]

Forget trying to duplicate the trip that some other guy had years ago. I know he described things poetically and stuff....but trying to duplicate his experience is silly. Honestly, his descriptions no longer impress me at all.


Kali/Tiamat impressed me. Insights into my own foolishness impressed me. The infinite white light and eternal full-being orgasm, that one righteously impressed me. Self dribbling basketballs--I am not impressed.