Thanks hostilis for reaching out.  I really appreciate it. :thumb_up:  I guess I've come to a conclusion that this is probably not going to produce the results I want without burning the shit out of my mouth and getting drunk on grain alcohol.  I tried an ounce of the Chaliponga tincture last night and didn't get a whole lot out of it.  I think the law of diminishing returns has set in.  That said, could you point me to a thread or link of the tek you are using?  I'm sort of debating internally whether this is something that I need or should do.  I've also been a very cerebral, contemplative person and I'm drawn to this like a moth to a flame.  I've done my fair share of hallucinogens and have never been very prone to having visuals, but this experience sounds like something everyone should have at least once in their life.  I just need to determine whether the reward is worth the risk at this point.  I have a limited understanding of chemistry and I don't exactly have a willing lab partner in my wife and kids.  Speaking of MHRB, I did a lot of research online and couldn't find anywhere that still carries it.  I know it's against policy to talk about vendors but I'm curious if there are still reliable sources out there.  Again, thanks.

- Dan