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The Traveler

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Hallo all,

Due to a lot of newbies spamming the forum by rephrasing the same question all over the place, new members that signup for the DMT-Nexus will now have limited rights.

This means that new members cannot make post in these subfora:
* Announcements and Suggestions
* DMT-Nexus Wiki
* Enigmaticus
* Hyperspace Lexicon
* Synchronised Hyperspace Event
* DMT Experiences
* Advanced/Enhanced chemistry

New members will furthermore have these limitations:
* Cannot create a poll
* Cannot vote
* Cannot delete own posts

When new members have shown their value to the community, mostly by reading up a lot and making good posts, their status will be lifted to the normal membership by me personally.

Medal
New members will be recognizable by an medal icon showing a new born sprout. This means this member is new and probably needs our help to gain knowledge! Calling a new member a n00b or such because of his or her icon is really NOT appreciated!


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
Noted! This is probably good for the community, but it feels a little restraining. Can you explain a bit more about when a member is considered normal? What level of what are we really talking about?
 
Hey Trav, what about the wiki? Should modify access to it be regulated, or do you back it up often enough that you can easily roll back? I'm not trying to sound like a Nazi, but the wiki is such an incredible wealth of knowledge... I'd hate to see it get horribly hacked up.

Peace
-idt
 
West-en said:
Noted! This is probably good for the community, but it feels a little restraining. Can you explain a bit more about when a member is considered normal? What level of what are we really talking about?
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The level we are talking about to become a normal member is quite simple and is all about attitude. Most of the times you can see within 10 posts if the person is a 'quick fixer', 'troll' or an valuable addition to the community.


idtravlr said:
Hey Trav, what about the wiki? Should modify access to it be regulated, or do you back it up often enough that you can easily roll back? I'm not trying to sound like a Nazi, but the wiki is such an incredible wealth of knowledge... I'd hate to see it get horribly hacked up.
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The wiki itself has a beautiful mechanism to revert any changes made. We can revert back all pages we like to any revision we like. :D
 
I dont think they should be blocked from posting trip reports. Sometimes we need to talk about such things and if they cant talk about there experience here then there is really nowhere else to post at.
 
Big Inhale said:
I dont think they should be blocked from posting trip reports. Sometimes we need to talk about such things and if they cant talk about there experience here then there is really nowhere else to post at.
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They can talk about their experiences when they are a normal member. Most people who join the nexus first have questions about extractions then methods of preparation, etc. Those posts should be enough to see if they can be a normal member.
 
I really have to disagree. I would have never thought about extracting DMT as i joined. It was pure faszination and it was my interest to talk to experienced folks in order to gain knowledge. Moreover, there are people who got their spice from friends or , like it or not, dealers.

Wouldn't it be better for us all if they could share their experiences and possible troubles so we could help them overcome problems?
 
Sometimes the first post by a new member is an experience report. This is a great way to get to know them and a great way to introduce themselves, in my opinion. Yes, it doesn't always work out like this, but I have observed this and personally think they should be allowed to.
 
so, membership will be opened again?
If this is so, could you please restrict the view of some subforums? so unwanted people can not sneak our conversations.:roll:
 
shago said:
so, membership will be opened again?
If this is so, could you please restrict the view of some subforums? so unwanted people can not sneak our conversations.:roll:
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I mean for guests. So if you wanna take a look, then you must register.
 
obliguhl said:
I really have to disagree. I would have never thought about extracting DMT as i joined. It was pure faszination and it was my interest to talk to experienced folks in order to gain knowledge. Moreover, there are people who got their spice from friends or , like it or not, dealers.

Wouldn't it be better for us all if they could share their experiences and possible troubles so we could help them overcome problems?
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I agree. There should at least be one place that new members can post reports. I found this site after my first experience, and man was I happy to find it. Bluelight, drugs, and erowid were helpful, but nothing like the knowledge and community I found here.

What about a "New Members" sub forum?? This might be a nice consolidated area for the mods to evaluate new folks too.

This thread is kinda funny if you think about this analogy: New Members have to learn how to "break through" into The Nexus' hyperspace! :d

Peace
-idt
 
so do the restrictions only act on new people starting now. furthermore i don't extract my self but a good friend of mine does and why do you think that's bad that i get it from a good friend?
 
Hello all,

You made a good case for opening the DMT-Experiences section for new members. As such, this has been done, new members can now post in the DMT-Experiences section.


Quick Fixer
-Changed- see a later post in this thread to see the updated text.


I hope this cleared things up.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
When we see a quick fixer I think it's our duty to politely make it clear that his or her ideas about DMT are wrong and we also tell them why those ideas are wrong. Then we learn this person how get a better understanding of DMT to gain it's full potential. This way we hopefully convert a quick fixer to a real nexian.
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Yes, that should be everyones obligation. Make no mistake - we shape our reality.
 
The Traveler said:
When we see a quick fixer I think it's our duty to politely make it clear that his or her ideas about DMT are wrong and we also tell them why those ideas are wrong. Then we learn this person how to get a better understanding of DMT to gain it's full potential. This way we hopefully convert a quick fixer to a real nexian.
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I'll also have to disagree with this statement. I find it a bit extreme and not really "in tune" with the nexus mentality (or at least what I feel as a "nexus mentality" ).

This is because I neither feel that there really "wrong" ideas (just "different" ideas), nor that we are on a mission to change other people's "wrong" ideas. I do not see people as real nexians or quick fixers.

On the other hand however, the limited rights is fine and should not affect much new subscribers. On the contrary it puts some more effort on the moderators' shoulders. Those who sign in just to ask a few questions and then disappear won't be really disadvantaged. And those who sign in to stay won't be really disadvantaged either; in due time they will be given full rights. It is as simple as that.
 
In my opinion, it's not to classify other opinions as wrong, but to show them that DMT might not be what they're looking for, and to make sure they're having a good experience. Moreover, we have to take into account, that a certain kind of culture has evolved in this forum and it's not a bad idea to make it clear, that for most of it's members, DMT is a very holy substance.
 
Infundibulum said:
The Traveler said:
When we see a quick fixer I think it's our duty to politely make it clear that his or her ideas about DMT are wrong and we also tell them why those ideas are wrong. Then we learn this person how to get a better understanding of DMT to gain it's full potential. This way we hopefully convert a quick fixer to a real nexian.
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I'll also have to disagree with this statement. I find it a bit extreme and not really "in tune" with the nexus mentality (or at least what I feel as a "nexus mentality" ).

This is because I neither feel that there really "wrong" ideas (just "different" ideas), nor that we are on a mission to change other people's "wrong" ideas. I do not see people as real nexians or quick fixers.
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You got a point there, what if I change it to this:


Quick Fixer
A quick fixer is someone who has heard about DMT, thinks it sounds like fun and thinks it's just another way to get high. It essence it's someone who doesn't know anything about DMT and didn't had the patience and respect to research our beloved molecule before making awkward questions.

When we see a quick fixer I think the best thing to do is to politely make this person clear that this is not what the DMT-Nexus is about. Then, if this person wants to, we learn him how to get a better understanding of DMT to gain it's full potential.
 
I think they'll find out one way or the other (that it isn't a quick fix) and reckon we should let them be to what they do. I do however like the idea of some restrictions on new members, though these shouldn't be biased on knowledge, or lack of, as you could assume a new member might not necessarily be new but rather new to the nexus scene. But none the less we'll try our best to welcome each person with open arms like we always have, whilst remembering not every new member wants to contribute or has something to contribute with and more than likely the majority of these 'newbies' are just looking for quick answers before they are on their way with failure. Those of them that of course are thoroughly seeking will no doubt find, just like we have..
 
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