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tanzalone1

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Hello everyone I am somewhat new to dmt. I have smoked it 5 or 6 times and have never broken through but I have reached a point where I seem to loose all sence of who I am and where I am and kind of feel panicy like I am struggling to keep my sanity. Smoking it sometimes is just too intense for me. So I tried snorting about 100 miligrams and it is a whole different expierence for me. The first time I did that I walked outside and suddenly I was overwhelmed with how beautiful the night sky was. It started to sprinkle rain and the wind was blowing I watched in amazement and basked in the absolute beauty of two trees I had never even noticed before. It was like I could see electricity moving through the branches to the leaves and while the wind blew them around it almost seemed like they were communicating with each other. I remember thinking that the beauty was so intense that I would give everything I owned just to stay right there watching those trees. I can honestly say it was the most incredible experience of my life and it was just trees lol everyday trees. It lasted an amazing 35 to 45 miniutes. As I moved my hand in front of me it was like I was pushing paint around.I have never had tracers like that before. I still love those trees and smile at them as I go to work every day. I only snort it now I dont smoke it anymore and each and everytime it has been an awesome and spiritual experience. This drug is definitly something to be respected and used like a sacrament. I wanted so much to share this expierence with my friend but when he did it he basically went insane. He just started talking gibberish and acting like a lunatic. Later he told me he was transported out of the room to a giant wall of liqid like moving fire that was a conscies entity. The way he acted scared the crap out of me. I dont want to share it with anyone again. He is a very expierenced tripper with lsd probly done it 200 times or more. I mean he is like 50 years old and a very stable guy and I thought he could handle it but Im just lucky he didnt decide to run out of the house and start screaming or try to go into someone elses house! I cant understand why that happened to him and nothing like that ever happens to me. He says he is glad to have done it and that it changed his life. He says he fears death less than he used to. I dont know has any of you ever had someone freak out on you? Is this common? Do any of you have expierences like the ones I do? Is my expierence a common type of trip?


Thanks all
 
Did your friend snort it too? I've not yet tried sticking it up my nose personally, but have some info based on experiences my friends and I have had with vapourising:

I'm afraid that very extreme journeys are part and parcel of the spice experience. You should not share it with anyone who's not capable of dealing with such experiences, however, it sounds like your fellow traveller came out unscathed and doesn't sound like he had a bad time.

In order to gain the most out of the molecule you'll have to give in to it. Accept that some missions will be a trial to deal with. For me at least I often find that difficult experiences are the most enlightening, but they can be hard to integrate due to the fact that vapourising is very fast and in your face.

If you don't like the the extreme intensity of vapourising it may be worth investigating aya/pharma-huasca, it's said to produce an experience that's not so in your face (at least in the come-up) so it's less of a problem getting taken by surprise and it's easier to integrate too.
 
If you feel the desire to go farther simply snort a little more or smoke more. Personaly I prefere smoking out of a bong using a custom bowl. It is the most effecent way I have found. When I first started smoking the spice I wasent breaking through but still gaining some knowledge and preparing myself for the inevetable breakthrough. If you smoke/snort enough then sit back and close your eyes you will be there. I like smoking because it works well for me to get there fast effecently and at exatcly the strength I want. Your 30-45 min experiance has made me curious to try snorting the crystal again though. I have seen the vast diffrences in how people react to the spice. Some people just absorb the spice as they sit in a meditative state other people cant stop laughing and acting like the fools they are. I wouldent be worried about how your friend was acting. Iv never seen anyone bable like that but it sounds like it was a life changing experiance and you should feel good about helping someone have that. Dont rule out sharing the spice eather, just use your judgement and inner voice / feelings to determine who in your life might be ready.
 
I tried snorting less than 5mg just as a pain test and.... well I surely didn't want to entertain this further, put it that way. Without a doubt the worst chemical burn my little snout ever had to face. I apologised to it immensley and said I would never do that to him again.

I quite like a snorted jungle fumerate experience, as its probably the most mobile I have ever been with DMT and can walk around and enjoy another side of the substance, but its just such a wasteful method and it doesn't really last so long so I don't bother anymore. That's also quite uncomfortable as well.
 
If you want to snort DMT, the best method is the natural one: Virola calophylla resin. Mix in some lime (60 grams per gram of resin) and a little water to form a wet paste, then let it dry at room temperature, and snort about 2 grams or more. It doesn’t burn nearly as bad as pure DMT does. SWIM prefers it sublingually to snorting it though. He uses the same recipe. It works very well.
 
tanzalone1 said:
Hello everyone I am somewhat new to dmt. I have smoked it 5 or 6 times and have never broken through
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2 Possible reasons: 1) your spice isn't pure enough. 2) You aren't smoking as much as you possibly can, Holding it, then smoking more. continuing to smoke until you probably drop the pipe. That *is* the attitude.

Pack as much as you possibly dare, Smoke as much as you possibly can.

Good luck breaking through, It is worth it.

tanzalone1 said:
It started to sprinkle rain and the wind was blowing I watched in amazement and basked in the absolute beauty of two trees I had never even noticed before.
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This is the power of DMT. What you said about them seemingly communicating... SWIM experiences things like that too.

tanzalone1 said:
I dont want to share it with anyone again.
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I understand this viewpoint, SWIM himself doesn't often share it. it seems people either don't appreciate it enough, although there were many "wow's", OR they have a difficult time with it. Either way, its too much effort to go around sharing it with people - and too much of a responsibility. Don't feel bad about it. They will find there way to it if they want. Also, there are other people that are going around sharing it. Personally, I don't feel that it is something that the DMT community needs.
However, I'd like to point out that the general feeling seems to be that everyone is finding out about this stuff? however, if you look at the number of hits on the youtube videos, they're only around 100,000 - compared to something like boxxy, for example, which has 5 million. So, DMT users are and always will remain an extremely underground and secretive subsection of society. - It just plain isn't for everyone.

tanzalone1 said:
He is a very expierenced tripper with lsd probly done it 200 times or more
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SWIM has noticed a sort of cross-enhancing effect between LSD and DMT. For swim, He had several increasingly intense LSD trips, and then when he smoked DMT it seemed to nit all the LSD trips together. Then, he took LSD one more time and it was the most incredibly strong and full on experience. As if DMT had opened somekind of doorway; and then what would usually have been a fairly normal strength trip was magnified 10000x !! scary shit, But the most profound and beautiful experience SWIM has had. He experienced being in the classic "all, is not, is neither" holy trinity kind of thing. Visions from the centre of the everything included three beings, (himself and his g/f, and something which was not there but must exist in order for us both to exist....) holding hands in an enternal ring of foreverness. Incredibly beautiful.
You are god. You are not god. Thats the divine dichotomy; and that kind of thing was experienced.

Its just fact that at the centre of everything, there is a single point. That point however, can not know itself (ever) because that is all there is. SWIM oscillated in and out of that point, first becoming the everything and then being unable to know himself as anything else, and then becoming simultaneously, Three things: Everything that is, Everything that's not, and that which must be there for both the others to exist. So, Absoloute all-everything all-there-is then becomes three things: Is, Is-not, and Neither.

SWIM suspects that tripping on LSD may be like building up somekind of energy when can then be expanded by the dmt.
So perhaps that is why the guy freaked out. Just an possible explanation.
 
Yes the pain from snorting it was terrible and i do sneez a lot the following day but the experiences were definitely worth it. I wish I had the same type of experience smoking it but each time it seems like the trip is well i dont know scarry. Once I began to panic because it seemed like I was going to forget to breath and I started to think I was dying. It also feels like nothing makes any sense and that I am not sane and I begin to feel panic as i loose my sense of self. Maybe Im not ready for the full experience. I enjoy the lighter expierence though. I mean they were profound but I was mobile and knew who I was and where I was at. I guesss we all have different paths.
 
soulfood said:
I tried snorting less than 5mg just as a pain test and.... well I surely didn't want to entertain this further, put it that way. Without a doubt the worst chemical burn my little snout ever had to face. I apologised to it immensley and said I would never do that to him again.
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Hahah, funny shit. I guess it wasnt that funny at the time though man.

Anyway, I have aksed this before, but not sure if i got an answer.
Surely the reason it stings so much is because its acidic or alkali right? Im guessing being freeBASE, its alkali
Well, if this is the case, is it not possible to add something pharmacutically inactive to the dmt to neutralise/alter the pH so it doesnt burn a hole in ones nose.
This is something i would be certainly interested in exploring, especially for the fact that it comes on slower and lasts a little longer.
Does anybody have any suggestions of how this can be achieved?
 
tanzalone 1 SWIM also had a horible experience with someone who acted a bit machismo because he "went through the sixties" and did ALOT of lsd and all, he was quite confident in himself, so he took a large bongrip of enhanced leaf on a hiltop and imediatly started moaning like a zombie and screaming "I'm Gonna Die!!! Who's gonna help me when I die!!!!" SWIM held his hand and told him jesus would save him..it actally helped him...I think He kinda laughed, mabey he really saw how asinine that coment was under the infuence of spice!! lol

But yeah SWIM won't be doing that again unless I KNOW FOR CERTIAN the person can deal with it!!!
 
soulfood said:
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for slow come up and long lasting travels
changa joints are perfect!
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aya/pharmahuasca's better :)
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I heard that when using aya/pharmahuasca you loose the visuals is that true? I really enjoy what looks like electricity flowing through the tree branches and the tracers are awesome. I guess the feeling is the best though the feeling of being so interconnected with other living organisms.
 
Check out the DMT Handbook here: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/w/images/0/09/The_DMT_Handbook_201208.pdf

If you have understood everything so far, you would have gathered that many of the above
processes rely on changing the state of the DMT between a freebase and a salt. As
mentioned earlier, freebases and salts have significantly different properties which include:

DMT freebase form
▪ More reactive (lower shelf life)
▪ Low melting point (easily smokable)
▪ Insoluble in water

DMT salt form
▪ Less reactive (greater shelf life)
▪ High melting point
▪ Water soluble (snortable, injectable)

You can see how these properties may be of interest to the experimenter. For example, if a
bulk extraction was done and one wished to store the product, then salting is of great benefit.
And the fact that the salt is comfortably snortable (have you ever snorted freebase? eeesh!!)
opens up a new level of exploration.
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How does one go about converting DMT into a salt form?

@ the OP:

DMT is really intense, more intense than any other psych out there. You can do LSD 1000 times and still not be ready for DMT. It's just like that. Honestly, it's the kind of drug you should only share once you know a great deal about it because then you'll at least know what kind of people will be compatible with the experience (if you want to share it). Personally I would share it with most of my friends because they know what it's about and they are into those kind of experiences, but I have different friends. Just do what's best for you.
 
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