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I was diagnosed ADHD at around 7 years old. We tried a couple stimulant medications like Adderall xr at the max dose and focalin but I never liked them much because they nuked my personality and emotions so I quit.

As I aged and experimented I started a mindless habit of caffeine and nicotine usually Marlboro reds and coffee. I never thought much of it besides taking the edge off and helping me just function 🙃

This last year I've changed my relatio ship with these a bit. I'm trying to redefine my health and boundaries especially when it comes to preventable harm like smoking and dipping. I stopped all other forms of nicotine and switched to synthetic nicotine pouchs, im thinking soon ill switch to patches.

The effects im noticing are night and day. I just feel more focused lately. Its not that I lack focus in my day to day but my executive functioning is hit and miss. Some days I can't get much done and other days I get several months worth of work done in a few hours.


Does anyone here have any similar experiences ?
 
Same here, although I am a self-diagnosed case. I just evaluated my own psyche and looked at my consumption habits. My few friends who have a legitimate diagnosis have precisely the same addictions: lots of coffee and tobacco. Some went your route and use nicotine products like gums and spray. I feel it is a much healthier solution than commercial tobacco. Snus is a hit in the US, but here in Scandinavia it is a norm, and most people use it instead of cigarettes. White nicotine pouches are cheaper to produce, and they have flooded the market today. It is all quite addictive, though. Pure nicotine is cleaner and a bit more manageable, but I increase my dose all the time if I am on that stuff.

It certainly helps. Nicotine is a much better nootropic than coffee and gives a real mental boost. It increases motivation in my case, but that may be because of my own physiology and the cold climate. Still, there are some downsides to it, and I cannot maintain it long term. I prefer a real organic pipe tobacco, but it is a different beast than just nicotine.

What I get from nicotine is clarity of thought, less rumination, focus, and a more optimistic outlook. Focus and a quiet mind would be my dealbreakers. I am on a long pause right now, and I like it so far. Long-term use of tobacco modifies neurochemistry somewhat permanently. At least, that is the case with strong doses of N. Rustica.

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I have had a lot of friends that have used this seductive drug. It really makes you feel stimulated in the moment. However I think the downsides from the constant use and yoyo-ing from not stimulated to stimulated are not worth the upside.

I say that but I will still take some on the occasion that it offered as its upside in the moment is nice.
 
I'm audhd and snorted Mapacho powder (hapé) made my mind feel as clear as a transparent crystal, but the effect is short and i wouldn't recommend it health-wise. I'm happy nicotine helps you, i think that as patches it's healthier than methylphenydate or amphetamine. But yes, the addictive potential is a bit worrying. With all neurodivergences i think that we shouldn't really be upon us to have to adapt ourselves to how the majority of the world functions, but i recognize this is utopistic as of now. Have you ever observed a more focused mind during times in which you weren't overwhelmed by the external world? Like moments in which the mind set still.
 
Nicotine definitely helped me in the past with focus, much due to increasing dopamine levels. But I couldn't stay healthy and avoid the addiction problem aspect of it.

In some phases I was chain smoking cigarettes while working on art projects like drawing and writing. Most of my history with nicotine was ciggies. Then there were all the blunts. A bit of dip and chew.

Aside from nicotine, tobacco-derived MAO inhibitors include beta-carbolines like harman and norharman, as well as phenolics such as 4-methylcatechol and 4-ethylcatechol, and other compounds. Daily tobacco user have lowered MAO activity in addition to nicotine in their systems.

When vapes started to be available I switched to those, but then instead of it being just a smoke-free healthier alternative I was barely ever putting the damn things down. Was expensive to the wallet and health and behavior. So eventually I got insurance that covered nicotine patches and even during the long stretch of slowly tapering down on the patch doses it seemed to help me a lot with just being able to focus with more attention. The patches got rid of the hand to mouth part of it all which was a big step.

Some can manage it as a habit or just have it now and then. I perhaps have a bit of envy for those who can do that because I on the other hand just had a raging addiction to tobacco or any tobacco or nicotine delivery system.

But the MAOI content of tobacco was also a big part of why I had a need to put it in me. Harmala alkaloids and Moclobemide have been studied as a smoking cessation aid.

Nowadays I avoid tobacco and nicotine because I don't ever want to be that addicted to anything again, but more power to anyone who can manage it well and get benefit. Regular MAOI use helps me a lot nowadays.
 
I have to say that for a long time I am truly fascinated by people's attraction to nicotine/tobacco.
I have tried multiple times in my life to start using it, mainly for functional purposes, but never fully succeeded. I tried it occasionally (in some weird form of sniffing tobacco?) as nootropic/stimulant for studying at an university and it worked pretty well for that, but I could do it for two consecutive days at maximum, then I simply could not force myself to continue using it.
I also tried various other forms of consumption, but with the same result. My body simply refuses it.
Interesting how different we are.
 
doubledog said:
I have to say that for a long time I am truly fascinated by people's attraction to nicotine/tobacco.
I have tried multiple times in my life to start using it, mainly for functional purposes, but never fully succeeded. I tried it occasionally (in some weird form of sniffing tobacco?) as nootropic/stimulant for studying at an university and it worked pretty well for that, but I could do it for two consecutive days at maximum, then I simply could not force myself to continue using it.
I also tried various other forms of consumption, but with the same result. My body simply refuses it.
Interesting how different we are.
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It could be a genetic predisposition, similar to how Europeans can handle more alcohol than those in the New World. I know that people smoked a lot on both sides of my family, and my grandparents smoked N. Rustica before the 90s. Maybe it played a role in my intense love of tobacco. I'm on a very long pause, though. Like I mentioned many times before, if you fully saturate your system with tobacco, addiction falls off by itself. It works only with strong organic varieties, ime.
 
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Yes, I know about it, this saturation method with high dose of tobacco is (or at least was) traditional folk remedy to cure tobacco addiction also here.
 
1Starway7 said:
Ive heard nicotine is a good inducer of dreams...
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I was in a hospital for a prolonged stay a few years ago. they gave me nicotine patches and told me to take them off before I fell asleep.
I totally forgot and had one of the absolute most vivid nightmares of my entire life. I cant recall what it was about anymore but it was clear enough to make me question reality when I woke up.

nicotine is a very strange substance for sure
 
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