nitrous and mescaline?!

[SHroomtroll]

So for the last 6months i have been experementing a bunch with nitrous, ive noticed it can add a turbo effect to almost every psych.

Anyway once when i did cacti i noticed it already had this effect going on somehow, like i could just focus really hard and get this nitrous type effect by wanting it:? :?

So this saturday i bough a bunch of whippets and went to work with it on some san pedro tea.

I usually go for 2 whippets in a row when doing it to get that special effect with morphing sounds and really intense thought processes,


But while on mescaline one whole charger was way to much and i just turned into a spazzing robot talking giberish and acting very weird, this actually freaked me and my girl out a bunch so i turned down the dose alot.

I found the sweet spot with slowly sucking down a can during 5-10minutes just like a was adjusting a knob to find this exact frequency of thought to be able to digest the optimal amount of information...


Also i noticed barely had any "temporary addiction" going on, ie no hippe crack binge at all.

Usually i just hit charger after charger till im out but now i did maybe 1 or 2 tops thehn waited a good half hour or more before redosing.


So try this guys, you will be amased how entheogenic n20 becomes while being high on mesc.

 

[polytrip]

Anyway once when i did cacti i noticed it already had this effect going on somehow

I have also noticed this. I have never had pure mescaline, so i don´t know if it´s the mescaline causing this effect or whether trichocereus and lophophora´s have another alkaloid in them besides mescaline, that is an NMDA-antagonist. But these effects are definately there, although in a very subtle manner.

How is the rest of the journey, after the effects of the N2O have worn-off? Is there not a risk that the rest of the mescaline-journey becomes a bit 'boring' when the N2O-effects have subsided?

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

Dude I highly recommend NOT doing this. About a year and a half ago I split two feet of pachanoi between three people, so it was a rather low dose. I had also read about N2O acts like a "turbo" for traditional psychedelics. Well when I took the balloon for about 2 minutes it DID increase and change the nature of my CEV's; there was this highly metallic richly colored fleur-de-lis which I started geeking out on, but as soon as I did I was struck with a TERRIBLE headache and got this weird toxic-ill feeling. However, I was (stupidly) using unsavory whippits with lots of nasy gunk in it so that could be it.

However, it totally ruined that cactus experience for me. YMMV

 

[Eliyahu]

N20 and LSD are great together too..IMO you have to be sure you have good clean N20 for sure..

From my own experience however I will relate that IMO..

N20 is of little value compared to DMT.

DMT and Mescaline...now THAT is a TURBO booster.

When I was doing N20 fairly often the DMT entities told me about it....they told me "no."


aluminum foil robots said:

there was this highly metallic richly colored fleur-de-lis which I started geeking out on

I believe that the fluer-de-lis is connected with Kabbalah and the tree of life.

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

Eli - please elaborate on this fleur-de-lis! What do you mean exactly, is this a personal inclination or is it in the writings somewhere? Also, is there anything else to the information from the DMT-entities on N2O? Did they give you any reason (I know they are rarely so direct!) I mean, it kindof isn't good for you, what with the inactivation of B-12 and the potential dangers of NMDA-antagonism (largely overstated IMO).

 

[Yerba]

There's nothing necessarily wrong with N2O, but I would be wary of using chargers without knowing what sort of impurities they contain. 'Tanks' as seen at festivals may be purer gas diverted from medical operations, but DO NOT support those criminal elements. They bring violence and police attention to the music and festival culture scene.

 

[Dante]

I only know that n2o while on shrooms was one of the most extreme and beautiful experiences I ever had!

I recently bought lots of chargers, therefore Ill soon be able to tell you how it works for me with other psychedelics :twisted:

 

[polytrip]

I only know that n2o while on shrooms was one of the most extreme and beautiful experiences I ever had!

I recently bought lots of chargers, therefore Ill soon be able to tell you how it works for me with other psychedelics :twisted:

With most psychedelic´s it is probably safe. But i don´t know if this also applies to ayahuasca...be carefull.

 

[Eliyahu]

I hear you Dante, I too have had some beautiful experiences due to this novel molecule..

I just like to trumpet about the incredible-ness of DMT

 

[SHroomtroll]

Ive done n20 after the peak of a pharma journey and it was very nice, i would probably not do t after a real ayahuasca journey though as that seems disrespectful.

N20 like other dissios can be used safely and responsible but also is very easy to abuse and just chase the high which obviously can be bad.

i have previously binged whippets abit but after i tried it on mesc i really got different view o how to use it.


Like a psychedleic frequency calibrator, just a tiny hit to take to to the another level of thought, not like full power turbo that you push all the way all the time(which i used to do)

 

[mew]

ive used N02 with cactus and it made the experience "bonkers" till the nitrous wore off. for me it was amazing, this was before i had a decent supply of dmt. since i prefer dmt to nitrous hands down. nitrous is infinitely iniferior to dmt, especially when combined with cactus.
the remainder of the mesc experience is a bit boring after nitrous and you are prone to a bit of a head ache. Dmt however compliments the experience with a spiritual asymptote that enhances the rest of the cactus experience due to the nature of its afterglow and the fact you are still under the effects of cactus.

side by side, a large dose of N02 vs a large dose of dmt, on cactus or not. one cant honestly say that the DMT wasnt vastly superior.

 

[tigerstrike92]

I will be trying this in the future.

I will say that I used N2O at the peak of one of my mimosahuasca experiences, and It was breathtaking. Universes were manifesting from black sea anenomes down the middle of my body.

I felt no ill effects after.

 

[Dante]

I hear you Dante, I too have had some beautiful experiences due to this novel molecule..

I just like to trumpet about the incredible-ness of DMT

I too love DMT, but I could never take it in a party environment. N2o on the other hand seems more appropriate for that kind of environment.

 

[mew]

entheogenic amounts of any substance should be avoided at a party.

if youre going to bastardize the potential of trichocereus or mescaline, and use it recreationally, which is fine as long as you have the necessary entheogenic respect. why not do the same with dmt? roll weak changa spliffs puff puff passout

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

Hm. Maybe it was just an idiosyncratic reaction then... I am rather prone to headaches, but impurities probably had something to do with it.

 

[Dante]

Mew: I totally agree, I never take big doses of psychedelics at parties. Especially with DMT, because I only prefer it in "entheogenic" doses.