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SpiritWalker

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Got a problem. I did a lazymans pull and I got basically no yield. Can you help me determine what went wrong?

I kept the powdered root bark in an airtight jar for about 6 months, maybe 8. I tried the tek in a ceramic pitcher instead of a ceramic mixing bowl to make it easier to pull the naphta. The first attempt I got maybe half a shot glass full of naptha out. I poured more naptha, stirred it again for several minutes and left it for about half an hour. This time I got a lot more naphta but after evap. there isn't anything on the plate. Just a bit of residue. We got enough for two good trips but that's about it.

So where did I go wrong? The pitcher or is it due to old bark?? Or do I need to look elsewhere for the problem?

Thanks
 
hmm. Must have been something I did wrong with the first pull. I got about a gram from the second pull. I'm still waiting to get that 1% yeild though! I used over a pound. 5 grams.. oh yea :p
 
Lazyman's is an STB that claims to give you "smokeable" within 6-7 hours. It is a standard STB ala Noman but the Naphtha pulls are eveporated in front of a fan instead of being freeze precipitated. The final product is (usually) very impure but totally "smokeable".
 
SpiritWalker said:
Got a problem. I did a lazymans pull and I got basically no yield. Can you help me determine what went wrong?

I kept the powdered root bark in an airtight jar for about 6 months, maybe 8. I tried the tek in a ceramic pitcher instead of a ceramic mixing bowl to make it easier to pull the naphta. The first attempt I got maybe half a shot glass full of naptha out. I poured more naptha, stirred it again for several minutes and left it for about half an hour. This time I got a lot more naphta but after evap. there isn't anything on the plate. Just a bit of residue. We got enough for two good trips but that's about it.

So where did I go wrong? The pitcher or is it due to old bark?? Or do I need to look elsewhere for the problem?

Thanks
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Dude if you cant close the pitcher well it will slowly evaporate.. i dont know what kind of pitcher do you have tho. Anyways im lost at another point;
you said half shot glass of naphta you got on your pull its very little :S how many grams of mhrb are you extracting? it should be far more than half shot glass.

How much naphta do you added? may be naphta didnt seperate well, if so you will need to add some more naoh+water in your mixture to basify it.

and you said you made the pull in 1 hour. I mostly take first pull after 24hrs. and second pull 48hrs later.

Also try to use warm naphta its better. and if you listen to me just make freeze precipt, because evaporation is a bit tricky thing
 
SWIM did Lazyman's. The first pull yielded nothing, but subsequent pulls ensured a good end-yield. So keep pulling.

Firstly, remember you're meant to be stirring for half and hour before pulling. It may be the Lazyman's tek, but you can't be TOO lazy! Read the tek carefully and don't take shortcuts.

After a few pulls, SWIM even started leaving it covered overnight after stirring to pull as much as possible (you can only do this with slow-evaporating naphtha like Bartoline White Spirit).

Stop evaporating- it's wasteful, unnecessarily unenvironmental, nasty to breath, and it'll give you harsh, dirty spice. Freeze precipitation is easy, gives much cleaner magick, and you can then re-use the naphtha for more pulls. Evaporating naphtha is stupid. The amount of magick left in the naphtha after freeze precip is negligible.

SWIM's magick smokes very smoothly, so I think if care is taken to avoid the dark sludge when pulling the naphtha, and the pull is then freeze precipitated, nice magick is the result.
 
Infundibulum said:
So SWIY and the dreamer are different people? Or is it SWID (someone who isn't dreamer)?
I got very very confused here...:p
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Yes, they are different people! I think both terms might refer to more than one person too. Or they are all the same person, as are we all? I'm pretty sure it was SWIM who did Lazyman's, but maybe I'm getting him mixed up with someone else. 😉
 
DoingKermit said:
I have never tried lazyman's tek myself, but i all ways seem to hear people having problems with it. Just thought i'd throw that out there. Good luck anyways!
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When extraction something sacred like DMT, I say away from any teks that have the words LAZY in them.

Do a standard A/B and see your yields soar.
 
SWIM has done a few of the basic lazyman/noman tek in smaller quantities and had only one problem and that was due to either lye lock or a too hot water bath. 1st and 3rd extractions went well and this user also reports good yields of 5g at 500 g of MHRB is 1% and sounds reasonable if not very good.
 
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to try a different tek because the yields have been far less than favorable. What's the quickest/easiest tek besides the lazymans tek?

To answer some questions, I was using about 500 grams of mimosa powder. I pulled about 1.5 grams total the first time I pulled it. You're right, it's dirty. It's always a yellow goo although I've gotten a few white crystals. The smoke is great though! A bit harsh but the trip is VERY deep. This pull doesn't seem to be going well.

Can anyone recommend a good ebay seller for mimosa? I think I might have gotten some weak stuff because even when we did ayahuasca it seemed quite weak and we were doing about 25 grams each.

Thanks for your help!!!
 
SWIM reccommends nomans tek but try out in 50g or 75g doses to not waste an entire batch...hit me up for a pm and I'll talk to you about ebay. Noman's tek is pretty close...it's just freezeing instead of evaping..SWIM reccommends reading all the STB teks you can and read posts after posts to determine a compilation of methods to make the entire process your own...

Basically

Water:LYE:MHRB 15ml:1g:1g

mix water and lye safely and slowly accorrding to all teks safety instructions.

Shake and mix for 5 minutes every 5 minutes but after every few shakes to relieve the cap to release pressure

after an hour of on/off shaking pour in naptha and continue shaking for an hour on/off every 5 minutes (keep releasing cap for pressure buildup)

Let this soak anywhere from one hour to a day for your first pull...which ever you feel...

do your pull and ensure to remove just naptha, no purple ( SWIM says certain syringes make this a little easier if it doesn't degrade)

Evap this without a fan for around 30 minutes. then place in an airtight container and put in refrigerator for an hour - half hour, after that place in freezer for 8-12 hours(even longer if you want)

Quickly before the naptha warms you should carefully pour the naptha back into your lye/mhrb mix and allow the xtals to dry for a day or until its completely dry

re shake the mix for an hour on/off every 5 minutes and wait 12 hours + to how every long you want before repulling the naptha

repeat this until yield gets too low...
you can also add a little naptha to the mix if the naptha level isn't high enough to re-separate easily but make sure to mix it in so it mixes in and catches the molecules and whatever
 
SpiritWalker said:
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to try a different tek because the yields have been far less than favorable. What's the quickest/easiest tek besides the lazymans tek?

To answer some questions, I was using about 500 grams of mimosa powder. I pulled about 1.5 grams total the first time I pulled it. You're right, it's dirty. It's always a yellow goo although I've gotten a few white crystals. The smoke is great though! A bit harsh but the trip is VERY deep. This pull doesn't seem to be going well.

Can anyone recommend a good ebay seller for mimosa? I think I might have gotten some weak stuff because even when we did ayahuasca it seemed quite weak and we were doing about 25 grams each.

Thanks for your help!!!
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hmm 500gr and half shot glass naphta you are pulling from it? it didnt seperate, thats the answer for your questions my friend.. you probably pulled so fast before waiting the seperation of layers. And as a starter, keep experimenting with 50-100 gr amount till you find your good proportions for naphta+naoh and so on...

heres my tek for 50gr:

50gr bark + 300ml water
25gr Naoh + 50-100ml water
and 100ml warm naphta for each pull.

and heres a link to a good ebay dealer. (remember always buy pink stuff i tried brown one but pink is much better):
LINK
 
I have a question about the Nomans tek. Can I just pour off the naptha layer like the lazymans tek? I'm not too comfortable about siphoning naptha and a seperatory funnel looks like a lot of BS.
 
its just a method of removing the top layer of naptha away from all water/lye mix. whether you use syringe, siphon tunnel or basic decanting as long as its all naptha
 
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