Nomans Tek yields & 'red' DMT questions

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Hi,

SWIM recently did Noman's Tek with 50g of MHRB, though using Heptane instead of Naphta & got the following yields:

1 Heptane pull - 144mg
2 Heptane (heated to 60 degrees C) pull - 68mg
3 Heptane pull - 68mg
4 Heptane (heated to 60 degrees C) pull - 38mg
5 Toluene pull - 240mg

I just wanted to ask if anyone could give any suggestions as to why the Toluene pull yielded so much, I know it pulls out more but the difference between pull 4 & 5 is so great he thinks it can't all be red DMT (incidentally its yellowy).
Also could anyone give SWIM an indication of the likely proportion of red & white in the 240mg of yellow extracted in the Toluene pull, as he's considering doing a hot heptane bath bath to separate them out but isn't sure if its worth it.

Thanks

 

[Noman]

That sounds about right actually.
Toluene always pulls a lot and heptane being more selective than naptha, would have left more behind for the toluene.
I would guess that you'll get roughly 40 - 50 mg white if you separate your 240mg red.
Separate with naptha and you'll get yellow.

 

[acolon_5]

I've noticed yellow toulene pulls as well. Does anyone know if Xylene pulls give the red colored spice?

Also, a friend of mine just did a toulene pull and upon heating with hot bestine all of it dissolved! This leads me to believe that all he actually pulled was n,n as well as a ton of oils.

 

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Around 190-200mg of red would do SWIM fine, he just wants to see what it's like. He's wondering if a shot glass holding 50ml would be big enough or otherwise suitable for separating the 240mg yellow?

As he was was surprised by the amount pulled by the Toluene SWIM did another pull with Toluene just to see if there was anything else left. This time he heated the HMRB & Toluene mixture. He's got it evaporating now.

It'd be great if the 5th pull was just nn & oils, while its yellow it seems clean. SWIM hasn't assayed it yet though.

 

[Big Inhale]

xylene also pjlls yellow earwax

 

[Noman]

I've noticed yellow toulene pulls as well. Does anyone know if Xylene pulls give the red colored spice?

Also, a friend of mine just did a toulene pull and upon heating with hot bestine all of it dissolved! This leads me to believe that all he actually pulled was n,n as well as a ton of oils.

Xylene seems to pull pretty much the same as toluene though my friend hasn't done an actual side by side.
The only difference he's noticed is that xylene is stinkier and evaporates more slowly.

Thats weird. Maybe the red just kind of melted rather than dissolved into the hot heptane?
It melts pretty easilly but my friend has found it completely insoluable in room temp heptane.
How fast did it resolidify?
Did it separate into white and yellow/red?

 

[El Ka Bong]

Is there a tannin-alkaloid - there are all sizes of these molecules, some must get you high !..? A wickedly potent MAOI..?

I gather it's tannins which have that ruddy, redish colour that makes the 'wine' like glow of filtered, acidic MHRB solutions? And maybe some of these solvents (toluene) able to concentrate tannins, psychoactive or not ?

Tannin - Wikipedia

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Tannins can be drawn out with proteins like gelatin, egg white and chitin - Just 1/2 teaspoon of gelatin in 200 ml acid-extracted MHRB (13.5g) goes quite red before you filter it out. So now I wonder if it was psychoactive gelatin I threw out - the filtered yage-type extract was barely psychoactive...?