SWIM tried 10g in capsules of ground up pieces of san pedro from FV and found it to be pretty stimulating at that dose... swim went to a reggae show and had lots of energy to dance, but felt over-stimulated and had to drink about 5 beers to feel grounded again... this worked out well cause the beer helped swim to relax and the cactus kept him up and full of energy, which was really a nice balance... swim felt like he was a lot less affected by drinking than usual, as he would most likely not drink that much if he wasn't so energized... paradoxically, it seems that SWIM is able to handle the energizing effects of cactus better at higher doses when it starts to have visual effects.