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FiorSirtheoir

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I have spent the last few days reading and preping. I started off making the tea from 18.5g of powdered MHRB(I set aside 1.5g in gel caps), cooked it 4x @ 30min with white vinegar, read a process by which to clarify it with egg, did that. This maybe where I screwed up I am not sure, perhaps I should have added water to increase volume, when I added the egg I had about 2 cups of tea in the pot. It lost the majority of its red ting and when it wasn't hot it clouded to a golden color with just a hint o red. I clarified it the next day, again because of the cloudiness, it cleared up and as soon as it cooled it was cloudy again. I spent the next day doing the salt hamalas extraction, off of 25g of Syrian rue I got approximately 1.5g of hamalas. Can definitely feel the alkaloids just by putting a little on your tongue so I am confident I didn't screw that up, but still I am new to this so... This is what I did with the hamalas - boiled it 4x @ 30 minutes with acidified water, filtered it, put the liquid back on to boil and saturated it with Kosher salt. Let it rest in the frige for 20 minutes pulled it out, filtered it again, dissolved the solids in water with a little vinegar over heat, filtered this 3x. After filtering it I add sodium bicarbonate accidentally at first, realized what I had done and switched to the sodium carbonate I had made by baking sodium bicarbonate @ 500 F for 2 hours. Then filtered and collected the solids.

Well last night I had a friend come over to sit with me, just in case. I have done quite a bit of work with Lucy and some with Gus, but I was simply heeding the advice and cautions of many of you here. I had fasted for 24 hours, water only, just to reduce any head ache or nausea, I dont regularly eat food high in tyramine, I actually have a pretty healthy diet. I gel capped about 200mg of hamalas and drank it down with some water. I waited till I could feel its effects, no visuals or anything with it, it was like having a nice alcohol buzz but with more clarity in mind. Waited 30 minutes, then I drank about 1/8 of the tea right off, over the course of the next hour I drank about 5/8, not really feeling any change, perhaps some light gridding, no more than what you would have from being really tired. I thought this strange and began to wonder if I was going to be tidal waved at any moment. Another 30 minutes pass, no change I drink the tea again, to where only about 1/4 is left. Another 30 minutes pass and no significant change. I am feeling pretty good, perhaps the hamalas. I am beginning to wonder if I some how removed the alkaloids from the tea, not sure how I could have managed it, but I saw no other fault, unless I screwed up the hamalas some how, which I don't see how. At this point, I kinda take on a fuck it attitude and leave the rest of the tea, and take the 1.5g MHRB in gel caps. Within 30 minutes the feeling changes slightly, still no heavy visuals, just slight distraction from the conversation my buddy and I are having. We go smoke outside and a slight bout of nausea comes on, a few burps over 15 minutes and it passes.

I get a little more clarity in thought, and have a great deal of peace though I am disappointed the effects aren't much stronger. At this point after T+3.5, confident I am not going to launch off, my buddy takes off to go home and catch some sleep. I go up stairs starving, check my list of no no food and make a little veggie stir fry with rice. Turn on a movie and chow down. I finish up the small meal sit back to watch the movie, and colors starts splashing, and a different kind of gridding shows up, the lines are a lot smoother, no discomfort in body, and even more clarity in thought. It was very pleasant but no where near a threshold. This went on for about an hour and began to back off. Laid down and went to sleep at about 2 am (T+ 5.5).

This morning there is still a slight linger of a euphoria, clarity in thought, and visually. No other feeling. Any idea what could be amiss?
 
Hmmm, I wish I could be of more help. It sounds like your harmalas worked, that feeling seems about right (nice alcohol buzz with more clarity of mind), though I have never extracted the harmalas themselves. Seems to me that the problem must lie in the MHRB tea. Pinpointing that problem is the next step. Could be extremely weak bark? You said you eventually drank 3/4 of an 18.5 gram bark mixture = 13.875 grams MHRB tea total drank. This should have worked with spectacular results. I've never tried the egg thing, I usually remove much of the undesirable particles by pouring the liquid through a t-shirt then ball it up and squeeze the remaining juice out. Doesn't remove them all, of course, but the more purple particles you can remove the better. An egg white seems logical. How much do you weigh? If you are big, that can play a role. Unless someone who knows better corrects me, then all I can suggest is to try again with ~250mg harmalas and new unadulterated tea. Again, sorry I couldn't be of more help, hopefully someone with clear-cut answers will get on here and give you a helping hand.
 
Where is the bark from?

18g mimosa could have kicked your ass and made you cry and beg for mercy if it had been good quality stuff, be glad it didnt work :D

A dose between 3-8g would be way more reasonable. Once I took 9g (and I usually need very large doses of dmt to get a good experience) and got my ass seriously kicked.

I would suggest maybe upping the harmala dose to 250mg (because it might be impure, so just to make sure you have enough MAOI). Maybe try drinking 5g mimosa without doing the egg white tek and see if it works (will taste like hell but be a champ :D ). Maybe for some reason the egg white cleaning is removing actives too ? Or maybe bad bark? Or... hmm hard to say but as a control I would try without it and see if it works.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!
 
I am about 175 pounds, and lean. The bark powder came from Shamanic Extracts, I ordered it long before I found the nexus. I guess I will refine the hamalas again with a/b. see if I get the same weight out of what precipitates and not do the egg, just filter it a few times.

At first I only had about 4g equivalent after an hour passed I drank more. I was wondering for awhile if I was going to be crushed. I am thinking it was the egg, I added it whileI had the tea to condensed. What I was feeling was probably the 1.5 g MHRB powder.

I really like what I felt, it was very smooth - I guess that would be the word for it. I will try again tomorrow, and let y'all know.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
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