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Notes from a Changa Preparation and a question

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Ice House

Ice House

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SWIMS sister's mother recently made a wonderful batch of Changa. She was attempting to make some 10x caapi in order to do a 1: 1 infusion with some wonderful spice.

Sooo, she took 50grams of cielo caapi leaf from Hawaii, Mayas and she crushed it up good then mixed it with a 1/2 pint of 99% anhydrous IPA in a quart mason jar. There it sat for two weeks in a dark warm spot. It was shaken well at least once a day during this two weeks.

After the two weeks, She took and seperated the juice from the pulp. The bright deep dark green juice was then added to another jar that had 5 grams of caapi leaf in it. This jar was shaken daily and allowed to sit and soak for a week. The lid was removed from the jar and the IPA was slowly evaped away.

once completely dried the 5 grams now weighed 8.5 grams.

Does anyone know if this is a typical weight gain or not? This is the first time she was this methodical about making changa.

She then took 5 grams of this 10x caapi and infused it with 5 grams of some very wonderful spice.

The changa she made in the past has always been very good, this batch however is believed to be a very special batch, I imagine it is very potent. The entire process took a month. No hurries.

I am excited to try it.
 
Ice House wrote:

This jar was shaken daily and allowed to sit and soak for a week.
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I don't know anything about the weight gain, but is letting the "menstrum" soak into the leaves necessary/standard practice? I am in the middle of making some 10X caapi leaf myself, but was not planning on letting it soak... I assumed it would infuse during the evap period, but perhaps IPA evaps too quickly... (?)

I will let you know about a weight gain upon completion, but it might be difficult because my quantities are so small (I will end up with 1.4gr + of 10X.

Cheers,
JBArk
 
jbark said:
I don't know anything about the weight gain, but is letting the "menstrum" soak into the leaves necessary/standard practice?
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I dont know. I have made changa but a few times. Usually make enough to last a year or two. Letting it soak feels right to me.

SWIM put allot into this... heart, soul, blood, sweat, tears, patience, effort...... you get it.

All the mixxings of something.. . .. . . . . . Epic?

Venturing into uncharted territory with this batch, I have a feeling that uncharted will be the case when the end product is vaporized.

lol
 
Tn the name of "heart, soul, blood, sweat, tears, patience, effort" I shall follow your lead then!! My menstrum has been filtered (I powdered the leaves), and tomorrow I will mix in the leaf, wait a week, then uncap and evap the IPA to leave me "something.. . .. . . . . . Epic"!!

Once the spice is infused, I'll have a lot of strong changa for quite a while!!

JBArk
 
IceHouse, the high weight of the caapi leaves after the menstrum infusion could be because the ipa wasn't fully evaped (if it is higher than it should be...not that it makes much of a difference). When i weighed my caapi leaves in the past after the menstrum evaped, even though it looked dry, it had some ipa still within the leaves; and after i let it thoroughly dry out, i noticed a significant decline in the weight of the caapi leaves.
jbark said:
I don't know anything about the weight gain, but is letting the "menstrum" soak into the leaves necessary/standard practice? I am in the middle of making some 10X caapi leaf myself, but was not planning on letting it soak... I assumed it would infuse during the evap period, but perhaps IPA evaps too quickly... (?)
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it's not necessary at all to first let the entire menstrum soak into the leaves. once a small decent amount of mentrum is left while evaping it onto the caapi leaves, the spice can then be mixed into the menstrum, stirred, and left to infuse with the harmalas altogether. Infact i think this is how most people do it.
 
Well, this magical batch is finished. I'm sure SWIM probably took more time than needed to preparing this batch,
but then again,
maybe not.

lol

This is the first time SWIM prepared it this way. It's never going to look dry and leafy. There was too much spice and harmalas to absorb or infuse into the Caapi. When its done its going to look more like a leafy kief or hasish with big particles in it. I can break it up, it crumbles into a sort of dry green pulp.

Its off the charts potent! SWIM was scraping up the plate it was drying on, There was this little dark green, almost black ball of scraping about the size of a small bead. SWIM put it in a GVG. SWIM just wanted to sample a very small ammout just to see how good the stuff was going to be. The ammount put in the GVG should have been a very small sub break through dose. I was sitting in a chair at my desktop. I wasnt planning on anything crazy.

I did feel the vapor for just a moment. I sudenly stopped drawing on the GVG. It dawned on me that I may have just done a very big dose? I felt a slow vibration begin it reminded me of how a peacock or turkey kind of shakes a bit right before opening up a beautiful array of colorful feathers. Boooom! In a sort of slow motion every thing just exploded? Everything was shuddering and shaking. Moving around the room. Normally this sort of experience wouldnt be so pleasurable. I would have been more comfortable in bed. I thought for a moment I was going to move, but I didnt. All of the right angles in the room were vibrating and shaking, the walls the corners the window frames the door jamb and there was a white tracer or tendril coming off everything that was shaking. It was extremely intense.

Very Nice.

The ammount put into the GVG couldnt have been more than 15mg? maybe?

hmmmm
 
Phantastica said:
once a small decent amount of mentrum is left while evaping it onto the caapi leaves, the spice can then be mixed into the menstrum, stirred, and left to infuse with the harmalas altogether. Infact i think this is how most people do it.
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Yep.

Get it down to around 50-60ml per gram of spice....dissolve said spice....and evap onto leaf/herb mixture.
 
Dimitrius said:
Get it down to around 50-60ml per gram of spice....dissolve said spice....and evap onto leaf/herb mixture.
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I have never had any troubles making a outstanding final product. I was never attempting to evap the menstrum onto the leaf but rather into the leaf and that is why i always left it to soak for a while. I understand that the small ammount of leaf you are attempting to infuse will never completely absorb the menstrum however I have had finished product before that clearly had the spice ON it. I find that I get more uniform dosing and more even or equal infusion when I let it sit and soak a while.
 
I like the logic and ease of this process Ice House.

SWIM is preparing his first batch of Changa and is now 2 weeks in on soaking 10g of Caapi Leaf in IPA. He was planning on breaking that up into two parts and doing two 500mg blends, one with caapi leaf (maybe 10% Mullein), and then one with 50% caapi, 40% Chaliponga and 10% Mullein (or maybe 40/40/20).

I find that I get more uniform dosing and more even or equal infusion when I let it sit and soak a while.
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Based on this, when SWIY gets to the stage where she infused the now 10x leaf with DMT did she also let it soak for a while to help get a more even spread? If so how long does she let that soak for.

It is doubtful that SWIM will have his DMT extracted by the time that the two blends will be ready with the 10x part unless he just purposefully waits to evap the IPA till it is ready. So he could either dry the two blends out full and then at a later date infuse them with the Freebase or he could wait to fully evap and then add the freebase then. I am guessing that either is fine for him to do.
 
For swim 10x caapi leaf wil increase the wieght of a grammof leaf for sure. The end result of the base leaf is rare the focus thought. Swim just mKes the base knowing that it's a 10x concentrate measures out a grand and infuses a gram on spice onto it. The end result is 2 grams of changa
 
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