now I see why its called the spiritmolecule.

[Al-Wasi]

After a couple failed attempts at breaking through and a series of sessions in which I ran into the same entity immediately upon takeoff. I was beginning to question my resolve to work with those molecule anymore. Until last night, I had been reading reports for a few days and was planning to journey. I'd read common things about the fear assosicated with getting there. I figurer maybe that's my problem. Anyways I was determined to make it there this time so I loaded 30mg in my machine and prepared to blast off.

I set my intention and asked the molecule to show me something new and to help me see what all the hype is about. I lifted my machine sparked the torch and slowly started hitting it. The smoke billowed out faster and denser then ever before I filled my lings to capacity and held and held until I felt my body dissolving.

This was also the first time I journeyed with music. I had shpongle playing in the background. The spice took hold immediately and in the same manner. This same maniacal entity grabbed ahold of me and started taking me some one where. I figured oh boy this is gonna go south quick. But it never did all the scary intimidating stuff it had the past three trips. It just took me to a place where it saw fit to split our reality at the seams, opening another dimension full of activity and beauty. The color were realer then real an almost 4d real feeling. There were all the little workers marching around showing me stuff. I don't remember what they looked like. But they were happy to see me and it was as if they were showing me that they do on a day to day basis to keep our world intact.

There were certain points were I felt completely disconnected from my body yet I knew it still existed. And somehow the music was playing but it was back home in our realm and not where I had been taken too. The things I scene were truly mind blowing and at one point once my eyes opened and there was some cryptic geometric stuff all.over my walls. Shimmering everywhere I looked. I was overwhelmed by how much beauty is there and how its always there right behind a veil.

I started to say omg omg omg and let out a moan almost and the little workers opened the rift and pulled me right back in hyperspace so I could watch them dance and work. An immense feeling of oneness with everything came over me and that I was a part of and a witness to something so unbelievable. Yet its right here all the time realer then our own world.

It was truly powerful. Its odd as the enetitity that I've been meeting that's been trying to scare me away actually took me to this place and this time he had no Ill intent at all.

I love this place. At first I wasn't getting how you people had done thisbstidd so Mich. Now I see what the hypes about. Thank you all that went before me and those that have helped me to stay when I wanted to just give up.

 

[Purges]

Flabbergasting is it not?! I'm glad you stuck with it, I feel dmt rewards patience, and don't forget that fortune favours the brave

 

[Tyler_Trismegistus]

Yeah its really a whole new level huh? people who have never done it but have done LSD have tried telling me they understand when I talk about how truly insane DMT is. I really don't think theres any possible way to understand without actually doing it. Congrats on your first breakthrough you're just scratching the surface!

 

[Al-Wasi]

This is what I've been waiting for. I stuck through it Eben after thinking maybe it just isn't for me. I persisted and finally broke through. I know there's so much more that awaits me. I'll be returning soon. Maybe with some changa I just made.

To anyone that's having hard time due to the sheer intensity of it. Let go. Its hard . I had to practice. I think it was a test. After this being realized even though he can scare me off I persisted and after a few scary trips with him he finally took me there. A rift that opens in space,a new dimension I've been unable to see,colors more real then the ones in our realm. Information and builders, its fascinating to think what else lies within.

Stick with it,let go, surrender,the only thing that awaits you is astonishment and wonder. I'm amazed and now see why this is the spirit molecule. LSD,psilocybin,dxm,mda,etc none of these can prepare you for the DMT experience.

Let it take you where it wishes don't resist. There's nothing to fear.

I love you all. Safe travels

 

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Welcome to THAT

All that is is...IS.

Don't forget it.

Boundless hyperreal brilliance billowing up through the cracks of the physical. (or what is supposed physical).

Trust me, even a quote on quote 'breakthrough' ..that's only the tip friend....only the tip..

Much love to you and your inneffable nature.

welcome to yugen

 

[Al-Wasi]

@Tatt your quote.....

"Trust me, even a quote on quote 'breakthrough' ..that's only the tip friend....only the tip.."

Hat exactly.do you mean by this? DMT has turned from something I feared and didn't think was for me to an experience that was full.of amazement and wonderment. I don't understand what you mean by the above quote. Could you explain please...

 

[anrchy]

@Tatt your quote.....

"Trust me, even a quote on quote 'breakthrough' ..that's only the tip friend....only the tip.."

Hat exactly.do you mean by this? DMT has turned from something I feared and didn't think was for me to an experience that was full.of amazement and wonderment. I don't understand what you mean by the above quote. Could you explain please...

What tat means, and i do know what he means, is this.

That which you have now found is a level. You see this new level and your like OMGzzzzz, i get it now "mind blown" so beautiful!

Well my friend... It can do that again, abd again, and again. I dont recommend them, but larger doses have the same effect on breakthroughs that breakthroughs have on lower doses.

Breakthrough is to sub-breakthrough

What BIG breakthrough is to breakthrough.

And the fact that you are at the beginning of an endless realm of possible breakthroughs that will forever blow your mind.

 

[Al-Wasi]

@anrchy.... Why do you not recommend larger dose breakthrough?

Just wondering and while I find that my next journey will either be with another 30mg of freebase I may dip into my changa to see how that fares with me. I understand at some point the stuff just gets to intense but I think that happens anyways with all psychedelics regardless of dose. At least in my experience one of my most intense LSD trips was on one blotter. Sometimes it just unleashes itself upon you I think.

I am.new to DMT so I trust your advice I just am curious as to why you don't recommend higher doses. I feel this 30mg dose last night finally got me to the other side while earlier 50mg didn't. I truly feel I have so Mich more to learn and see with this molecule. Hopefully my changa, a mix of 1 gram caapi leaf, 750 mg caapi harmalas extract, and 1 gram DMT will help me in my journeys.

I understand it goes deeper and deeper but I'm curious as to why you don't recommend others to go as far and you have?

 

[anrchy]

@anrchy.... Why do you not recommend larger dose breakthrough?

Just wondering and while I find that my next journey will either be with another 30mg of freebase I may dip into my changa to see how that fares with me. I understand at some point the stuff just gets to intense but I think that happens anyways with all psychedelics regardless of dose. At least in my experience one of my most intense LSD trips was on one blotter. Sometimes it just unleashes itself upon you I think.

I am.new to DMT so I trust your advice I just am curious as to why you don't recommend higher doses. I feel this 30mg dose last night finally got me to the other side while earlier 50mg didn't. I truly feel I have so Mich more to learn and see with this molecule. Hopefully my changa, a mix of 1 gram caapi leaf, 750 mg caapi harmalas extract, and 1 gram DMT will help me in my journeys.

I understand it goes deeper and deeper but I'm curious as to why you don't recommend others to go as far and you have?

Im gonna go ahead and paste what i sent you in a PM as i feel others should read it to if they dont already know. I also recommend if you can afford it get a gvg, that changed everything.

To put it simply, it is psychologically challenging afterwards. Its been almost 2 years since my large dose. I have been unable to administer a good dmt dose since for several reasons, and at this point of time im torn between never dosing again or putting effort into the work ahead of me as far as getting back on the saddle again.

Part of me feels like the work is done as far as dmt goes, and that i have all the tools i need to continue my journey in life. Another part of me feels like there are still pieces to the puzzle that i need in order to get where i want, and dmt is what i want to utilize to get there.

There is also no way for someone to tell another person if they will be able to handle a large dose. ALSO, most nexians that have dosed large did it on accident, like me and tat, and have no desire to attempt it on purpose. Its that hardcore.

 

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Anrchy pretty much nailed it wakeup, but i'll chime in real quick.

Im going to be as 'to the point' as possible:

The DMT experience is truly infinite, in the levels that the experience can take you. Alot of times, after many harrowing experiences, you think "how could it be any deeper/more profound than this!?", only to light up a pipe later down the road and find out clearly that - this experience we dissolve into - the levels of THAT - are truly infinite. There is no bottom or top - there is only ineffable infinity.

Eventually though, due to our own physiology or level of innate awareness, after taking a dose that was too big - we will tend to 'black out', which all that means, ime, is that it will be too overwhelming/profound/intense to the point that you will not be able to remember any of it whatsoever.

Basically in a nutshell - the DMT experience is infinite.

Just dont ever get complacent with one specific set of ideals in regards to the experience, because eventually, as long as your persistent on the path, the DMT experience will eventually flip your world entirely upside down, way past the point of your last breakthrough.

This experience is more powerful than we could ever comprehend, and deeper/more ineffable than we could ever hope to grasp..

And yeah, Glass Vapor Genie... as anrchy suggested....whole nother' level of EXTREME efficiency in regards to vaping DMT, as with the GVG, once you get the method down, you can smoothly take an entire huge dose in one hit - which - i guarantee WILL be much...much different than any other vaporization method of freebase DMT.

1:1 changa is another great method for going extremely deep. The harmalas impart a much longer time frame to get the DMT into your system, versus having to get straight freebase DMT within a short time window or you won't breakthrough.

Anyways, great experience report

 

[Al-Wasi]

Basically in a nutshell - the DMT experience is infinite.

Just dont ever get complacent with one specific set of ideals in regards to the experience, because eventually, as long as your persistent on the path, the DMT experience will eventually flip your world entirely upside down, way past the point of your last breakthrough.

This experience is more powerful than we could ever comprehend, and deeper/more ineffable than we could ever hope to grasp...

It seems as if the DMT experience reaches a certain point in which people with much experience and many journeyes end up having a journey that is just too intense to handle and puts them off from continuing there use. Am I correct in this observation ? Or is it just at some point one finds they can no longer gain anything from the experience and therefore they stop?

Obviously I've just scratched the surface of where this can take me and I look forward to many journeys in the days to come. I'm just wondering what it is that changes peoples relationship to the molecule.

I know after my most terrifying LSD journey I swore it off forever. However I eventually ended up dosing LSD at least fifty tines afterwards and eventually I became "USED" to the darker aspects and they no longer bothered me as they once did.

 

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It seems as if the DMT experience reaches a certain point in which people with much experience and many journeyes end up having a journey that is just too intense to handle and puts them off from continuing there use. Am I correct in this observation ? Or is it just at some point one finds they can no longer gain anything from the experience and therefore they stop?

For some, that's the case, and for the latter, that 'can' be the case also, at least ime, and for others it's not the case at all. The nail can only be hammered in so far before you realize certain underlying threads throughout each and every experience. Many of these commonalities are talked about throughout this forum. And these commonalities im referring to are in the higher dosage realms.

For me, even though i've taken away some very profound messages, besides the 'you think you know, but know VERY little' message, I continue my dialogue with the other side. Every step in your everyday life, ever blossoming of new avenues within yourself and outside yourself, those constant evolutions both inward and outward serve as new launching points in your work with DMT, at least ime. The DMT experience works with what your working with and what you give it - nothing more nothing less.

Obviously I've just scratched the surface of where this can take me and I look forward to many journeys in the days to come. I'm just wondering what it is that changes peoples relationship to the molecule.

Everyone has there own path so that'll vary. Dig deep my friend, and you will see..

I know after my most terrifying LSD journey I swore it off forever. However I eventually ended up dosing LSD at least fifty tines afterwards and eventually I became "USED" to the darker aspects and they no longer bothered me as they once did.

That's important. Don't shy away from the dark and sinister, it's as much a part of the ineffable as the light and angelic/etc; EMBRACE IT, give the demons room to breathe, and in allowing so, you will expand. Both are needed, but when plunging to the depths beyond their duality, you'll see it all for what it is...or isn't.