"Oh Fuck"

[wage.]

Hey guys. I'm currently freeze precipitating 2 seperate STB extracts, 1x 50g Acacia Floribunda , Leaves and Flowers and 1x 75g Acacia Floribunda Bark.

I'm considering trying DMT for a second time now but I'm still nervous about what I may be taken suprise by. I remember when I first smoked it, I had 2 small inhales and all of a sudden I thought
"Oh Fuck"
"So this is what people meant by it being unexplainable"
"Something big is going to happen and I don't know what"

As soon as it hit me I panicked and started to feel extremely anxious and guilty, I had $350 of Alexander Shulgin books in my Amazon Shopping Cart and suddenly felt an overwhelming urge to get rid of the items before I have to pay for them.

Anyway, if this freeze precipitate works I will most likely try 10mg or something smaller tonight.I have Valium if things go really bad, I'm not expecting them to, and I think it would probably be a bad idea to not deal with whatever made me panic with a head on attitude.

Can anyone experienced give me some examples of thought processes they've encountered? and also what I'm in for if I smoke 5-10mg in a bong.

 

[Purges]

$350 of Shulgin books?! I didn't know he had written that many! Not sure why you would feel guilty about reading up on a topic of interest. Maybe buy the books in installments?

As for the DMT - the nerves won't go away! They are natural. Even after dozens of journeys I have to really prepare my body and mind before going in. This is one of the 'tests' that DMT presents us with imo.

5mg for me would barely do anything.

10mg would be the first glimmerings of an experience, but more of a body load than anything else. And this is being vaped efficiently, in one breath and held for 10-20 seconds.

15mg is where it starts to get visual and interesting for me, and beyond 20mg we are entering breakthrough country. This is using a GVG though, I would need more if using a bong as it is easier to burn the Spice, plus there are other factors such as water and more glass to condense the vapor on its way to your lungs.

10mg won't give you an idea of what lurks at 20+mg, so if you want to explore deeper territories then at some point you will just have to take the plunge.

If you are planning on taking the Valium to calm a trip down / abort, it will be over before it kicks in any way. If it's to calm the nerves before hand, you should look into other routes, such as meditation and / or harmalas (which also slow down and potentiate the DMT)...

Just relax and go with the flow, the Spice will take you where it wants and trust that you will be back in 10 mins, most likely with an enormous grin on your face.

Good luck!

 

[wage.]

Thanks for the reply. The Diazepam is just for Anxiety when needed, I had Xanax in my drawer when I first tried DMT but I decided to let the trip run its course, it seemed like a healthier option to deal with it rather than to take .75mg to calm down.

I had an experience on Psilocybin that gives me an idea of how to "give in". I remember I had 3 friends over in my bedroom, we were under age at the time and had taken Psilocybe Subaeruginosa Mushroom Caps ranging from 1g dry to 2g; each depending on the persons experience, 1g going to the friend who had only tried Cannabis.

Long story short, I dosed too high (2.0g+) , panicked and realised the only way to stop the anxiety was to just "go with it". As soon as I did I felt a feeling that's impossible to describe come over me. I had never felt so at peace, I was simply happy existing and every second that passed was bliss, it felt as though I had nothing to fear. It's so difficult to describe. It was completely different to Opiate or Stimulant euphoria.

 

[lightof1]

Hey Wage I met you a little while ago on chat Someone gave me a gram of yellow spice. I've only did it 6 times but the 6th was a break through and it was life changing.Every time I did it the first few seconds it's taking over are scary. I think my brain thought wow you really did it this time and you're dying then I'd calm down and see all kinds of cool stuff that seem to always be just in a different dimension.The 6th time I had Motorhead playing in my kitchen and a cigarette lit, both mistakes but that's how it happened. I was using a straight pyrex tube with about a half inch of packed brillo for the screen. I took the biggest hit I could and held it 51 seconds.While I was holding it I could feel it coming and tried to put out the cigarette on the table next to my bed because I had forgotten the ash tray. I heard this strange mocking voice saying out loud you would want to burn your house down.Still holding the hit I through the cigarette on the floor I noticed that not Lemmys voice had changed but so had the lyrics of the song playing in the other room.I was watching the clock then I looked at my hand it and my bedroom looked really fake I laid down on my bed and let out the hit.With my eyes closed I saw cool ass glowing patterns with moving rhythm of changing colors and a tiny sparkle.I tried looking at the sparkle closer to see what it was and it sucked me right into it very quickly.I was no longer in the shell of the body that I'd left behind.I thought about it laying back in my bedroom for second but I was so overwhelmed with love and joy I didn't even care if I had died and I thought is this what death and something thought a reply "this is exactly what death is."It was so amazingly beautiful by far the best experience of my entire life so far.The thing was it was the first time I'd done totally alone.

 

[wage.]

It was good talking earlier

Sounds like an interesting experience. I don't know if Motorhead would be good idea for DMT haha.