Chan
Another Leaf on the Vine
I was enjoying reading NGC_2264's massive, somewhat controversial but very well-written post here and commenting on it, until it was teleported up and out of the new members area 
Anyway, perhaps if any other initiates would like to comment on it, they can do so here?
I have a couple of decades experience myself, and am dimly aware of some of the things the OP describes, but am nowhere near drawing such dark, bleak conclusions.
In a nutshell, my take is as follows. As the Gnostics and others have described for aeons, as above, so below. In our own meatspace Earth, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that generally, higher conscious organisms predate or exploit those of lower consciousness. There are exceptions, of course, but generally the will to power manifest in all beings operates on that principle unless higher principles are sought to transcend that arrangement. For example, most people are reasonably content to consume factory-farmed meat, even to excess; but those who are not, are in a fairly small minority in most cultures.
Many of us here, I hope it's fair to say, aspire broadly towards holism. This also is something of a minority view-point, as a cursory glance at the WSJ or any news channel will tell you. It should be no surprise therefore, that hyperspace embodies a similar messy duality. The question I have is whether this is because our own "world-eaters" are consciously imitating their counterparts in the higher dimensions or whether the latter are directing the former, as e.g. archons? Either way, there are a lot of ass-souls past, present and future to be accommodated somewhere!
This would explain why indigenous cultures go to great ritual lengths to safeguard their operations in the higher realms, unlike many non-indigenous users. Its clearly a jungle out there, at least in the lower dimensions, and whether you encounter a butterfly or a T-Rex, well, that depends on a lot of complex variables. Also, the widely-held belief that many entities, at least at first, are actually aspects of our own selves deserves consideration. I'm sure the OP has considered this already, but he doesn't mention anything in the text if he has.
I've been working mostly with the Blessed Shepherdess for the last year, after an intense period of psilocybin journeys. DMT-hyperspace could be said to be a top-down kind of a system, with the Source at the top, and a lot of mayhem down below. I truly think salvinorin-A may have arisen as a bottom-up counter-argument to that system. I have felt my consciousness separate down to the cellular level whilst under its influence, on several occasions, even getting the message that this was one of its key functions, enabling the smallest to communicate with the whole. This was immensely reassuring, and might explain why it can be particularly useful for re-grounding.
Famously, the origins of Salvia D. are completely mysterious, and the molecule itself is extremely rare in nature, unlike DMT. The latest theories suggest the likely origin of the plant was probably Colombia, so northern Amazon basin in other words, close to the centre of the greatest historical use of DMT as a sacrament. Coincidence? I'm less inclined to believe so as I continue working with her.
Essentially, the plants had had enough of the monkeys monkeying around!
Anyway, that's my 2c.
Thanks for reading.
Anyway, perhaps if any other initiates would like to comment on it, they can do so here?
I have a couple of decades experience myself, and am dimly aware of some of the things the OP describes, but am nowhere near drawing such dark, bleak conclusions.
In a nutshell, my take is as follows. As the Gnostics and others have described for aeons, as above, so below. In our own meatspace Earth, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that generally, higher conscious organisms predate or exploit those of lower consciousness. There are exceptions, of course, but generally the will to power manifest in all beings operates on that principle unless higher principles are sought to transcend that arrangement. For example, most people are reasonably content to consume factory-farmed meat, even to excess; but those who are not, are in a fairly small minority in most cultures.
Many of us here, I hope it's fair to say, aspire broadly towards holism. This also is something of a minority view-point, as a cursory glance at the WSJ or any news channel will tell you. It should be no surprise therefore, that hyperspace embodies a similar messy duality. The question I have is whether this is because our own "world-eaters" are consciously imitating their counterparts in the higher dimensions or whether the latter are directing the former, as e.g. archons? Either way, there are a lot of ass-souls past, present and future to be accommodated somewhere!
This would explain why indigenous cultures go to great ritual lengths to safeguard their operations in the higher realms, unlike many non-indigenous users. Its clearly a jungle out there, at least in the lower dimensions, and whether you encounter a butterfly or a T-Rex, well, that depends on a lot of complex variables. Also, the widely-held belief that many entities, at least at first, are actually aspects of our own selves deserves consideration. I'm sure the OP has considered this already, but he doesn't mention anything in the text if he has.
I've been working mostly with the Blessed Shepherdess for the last year, after an intense period of psilocybin journeys. DMT-hyperspace could be said to be a top-down kind of a system, with the Source at the top, and a lot of mayhem down below. I truly think salvinorin-A may have arisen as a bottom-up counter-argument to that system. I have felt my consciousness separate down to the cellular level whilst under its influence, on several occasions, even getting the message that this was one of its key functions, enabling the smallest to communicate with the whole. This was immensely reassuring, and might explain why it can be particularly useful for re-grounding.
Famously, the origins of Salvia D. are completely mysterious, and the molecule itself is extremely rare in nature, unlike DMT. The latest theories suggest the likely origin of the plant was probably Colombia, so northern Amazon basin in other words, close to the centre of the greatest historical use of DMT as a sacrament. Coincidence? I'm less inclined to believe so as I continue working with her.
Essentially, the plants had had enough of the monkeys monkeying around!
Anyway, that's my 2c.
Thanks for reading.
