This has been my experience. Someone recently told me that they have the ability to induce OBE's from meditation. I tried to get them to describe it, describe the sensations....idk, sounded nothing like the good old fashion SP induced OBE that I am used to, so I doubted his word on the matter. Well, he barely described anything, even when I described my OBE's in vivid detail, he could only be vague... well, maybe he knows something that I do not know? 

As for the cannabis connection--this mind-awake, body-asleep state, is one that I've never once attained without being sober.

No television, no weed, no booze.