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Opinions on freebase dosage in a GVG

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monty p

monty p

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My cat is still relatively new to DMT and is getting very mixed results with dosage using her GVG and ARC lighter. :?
Smoking 20mg seems to give a lovely effect but minimal visuals most of the time. 30mg is a lot more intense but still leaves her wanting on occasion, i think this is mainly down to smoking technique.
I know these questions are not very subjective and there are a lot of variables but here goes . . . .

Whats your preferred dose in a GVG for a strong/possibly "breakthrough" experience?

Step by step, whats your smoking technique, do you take multiple tokes?

Cheers :d
 
I was surprised to notice difference in freebase DMT's(including my friends), so dosage would also depend on the strenght of the DMT. Do you have milligram scale?
 
Yeah strength could definitely make a big difference, just trying to get an idea what the perfect dose/technique is for fellow nexians.
My cat does indeed have a mg scale, i think its mainly smoking technique so to hear what works for others would be great :)
 
Not to insult your intelligence, but make sure you are actually inhaling and not just sucking. If you're not a smoker (like me), this could be an easy mistake. Hold it in after you have filled your lungs for about ten seconds or more.

Does the spice actually vaporise? Can you see the vapour form in the pipe?
 
With the freebase, SWIM can use essentially the same technique with bic or torch lighter. Hold the flame directed at the ceramic piece (distance will vary depending on type of lighter). Pull slowly until visible vapor fills the chamber, then exhale fully and inhale the vapor. With this, 20-25mg does all SWIM needs.
 
@ Entheoghen thanks for your thoughts but that definitely not the issue :) Yeah there is plenty of vapour in the pipe and upon exhalation.

@ ragbar thats interesting that you fill the pipe then exhale fully then inhale, almost like charging a bong, i will give that a try next time!
 
First of all, if your spice is relatively pure, it’s all the same “strength”.

As far as my dosage goes, 20mg is usually a sub-breakthrough and not too visual. 25mg is a strong breakthrough. My most intense DMT experience ever was with 27-28mg. I have no need or desire to use more than that with the GVG.

Here’s what I do:

Start by removing top piece, heating the metal mesh disc slightly, then pouring a pre-measured dose onto the mesh. It will melt right in. Replace top piece. (This step can be done in advance.)

Take a few deep breaths to get fully oxygenated (so that you can take a long, slow inhale without feeling oxygen deprived).

Exhale fully, and while exhaling, begin to heat the ceramic diffuser.

Slowly inhale from GVG, while continuing to apply heat to the diffuser. Not much vapor forms during the first 5 seconds or so – the metal mesh is still getting up to temp.

Generally after about 5 seconds, a huge plume of vapor is produced – most of the dose vaporizes at once if your mesh is good. This can be a bit uncomfortable and disconcerting, but continue to slowly inhale.

When you notice that no more vapor is being produced, remove heat source, continue inhaling for a few more seconds, then hold it in.

Quickly put your lighter and GVG in a safe place, because you won’t have much time at this point.

Get comfortable, exhale, and leave this Earthly plane far behind.

:shock:
 
It depends on my condition. I need from 25 to 40 for a breakthrough. If I'm tired or lots of stress in my nerves I need a lot more.

When rested and relaxed 25 is enough for a breakthrough. But usually I need 30-35mg's.
 
Thanks Jibran, exactly the kind of response one was looking for, will do some experimenting this evening :)
 
Hi,


zubidlo is using GVG with copper mash as well. (followed gibran2 advice few months ago and never looked back:d )
But dosage is higher for zubidlo. Harmalas needed too. Caapi leaves smoked or 5g caapi tea drunk before vaping spice.

GVG is loaded with dosage which would give 3-4 hits with ceramic filter on. But there is not enough time for that. Instead 2 hits taken through ceramic filter with torch lighter, than filter taken away and carefully applying heat to remaining spice trying not to burn it. What follows is best to describe as 'violence':d Remaining spice is vaped in HUGE, DENSE cloud, filling lungs with choking sensation at the exact moment the carrier wave starts. Zubidlo consciousness is launched out of his body with great speed with realization that time stopped (or cease to exist). Zubidlo never exhale that last hit, it stays in lungs with body, while zubidlo is gone. There is no breathing in hyperspace:d

This way of smoking was learned by mistake few months ago. There is just not enough time to vape all spice in 45 seconds.
This way zubidlo likes to smoke spice for hours in row at late night (200-300mg a night). Meditate between trips. Than before goes to sleep eats few grams of dream herb for lucid dreams. It works almost everytime after spice sesions.

zubidlo understands why shamans call ayahuasca 'wine of death' or 'wine of spirits'. After few hours of vaping DMT with harmine in bloodstream, zubidlo use to feel like a ghost or rather dead man. (this is not a joke:d )

Anyway... dosage is different for everyone. Fear plays big role too. Once fear is ignored, dosages get higher. Respect stays. Jurema is the teacher.




Regards,
 
For me,30mgs does the job if inhaled in one blast via the GVG; the most Ive ever done (1 breath, classic VG) was 48mg and that was beyond what was comfortable for my cerebral cortex.
 
25mgs is a breakthrough every time. Set and setting and get comfy. I just put it in the GVG and hold the torch flame above the ceramic disk and draw. The disk heats up and glows red. About 3 seconds of glowing red, I take the flame away and set the torch down. I continue to inhale until I cant.

I'm gone............
 
Gibran2 Your technique is perfect! 25mgs breakthrough without fail, thank you very much indeed :)
 
Breakthroughs with 25mg? Really?

What do you guys mean when you say "breakthrough"?

My understanding of a 'breakthrough' is that you are no longer aware of your physical body or your physical surroundings. Like you don't know you are in your living room anymore and you don't know if you are alive. Much more than just sitting on your couch enjoying visuals.

Are you guys really getting that with 25mgs???
 
30mg gets me there, and I think I'm not even getting all of it in my lungs - there's always some resin left, which can be smoked for effects, so yeah I believe 25 can do it.
 
RobMarley said:
Breakthroughs with 25mg? Really?

What do you guys mean when you say "breakthrough"?

My understanding of a 'breakthrough' is that you are no longer aware of your physical body or your physical surroundings. Like you don't know you are in your living room anymore and you don't know if you are alive. Much more than just sitting on your couch enjoying visuals.

Are you guys really getting that with 25mgs???
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Yes! 25mg can be a moderately strong breakthrough for me – complete immersion in an alien realm of existence. Leaving my body and this reality far behind. 30mg is too much.
 
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