Own herbal 'ecstasy' recipe - Help?

[Vorny]

Hey guys

Now, everyone loves MDMA, but there's no denying that the way it's precursors are sourced is damaging for the environment, and that the drug itself generally leaves you feeling a bit down/off and isn't too good for you.

I've been thinking of trying to put together my own 'herbal ecstasy' mixture.

Obviously it wont be like the real thing, but somewhere near is always nice.

What I'm thinking of doing is:

3 or so seeds (Low dose) of HBWR - Capture the euphoria and emotions
Lower dose of Kratom - Lessening of anxiety, chattiness.

The final ingredient I want to be something similar to Kratom, that will lessen anxiety, provide some stimulation also. Any ideas?

Thanks guys, and tell me if I'm being incredibly silly, haha.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

With a quick look, I just found this which seems to make sense in my book:

I recommend REALLY studying herbal medicine with a view to finding what you seek. The answers are out there... Understanding plant biochemistry and enzymology is very useful in this field. The principles of ayahuasca can be extrapolated to other plant combinations outside and beyond the basic amine/MAOI starting point.

I 'get high' on an ongoing basis using commonly available medicinal and culinary herbs and spices, careful attention to diet and lifestyle, and the above-mentioned knowledge. Getting high is our birthright - modern civilisation is geared towards keeping (most of) us down.

I wish you every success in your endeavours - travel safely!

PS: I notice coffee is missing from the 'legal highs' mentioned above. Get the best whole beans you can afford, grind them yourself, preferably with a hand grinder. Make a quadruple espresso and serve in the manner that suits you. Then tell me if you feel 'high'!

PPS: Absinthe - the really good stuff - can be quite special. Find a recipe and make your own. Then stick it in your coffee.

Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1416688#post1416688#ixzz2rc31sKgR

Helpfully autolinked but please edit if this kind of thing isn't allowed

 

[Vorny]

I'll give the link a read, thanks

 

[magic9]

well that sucks, im not registered. id love to know how to make legal highs.

 

[Vorny]

Thanks for the link but I found it rather lacking in what I was looking for

So, any other ideas?

Low dose LSA (Euphoria, slight psychedelia)
Low dose Kratom (Slight stimulation, mood lift, chattiness)
Just need something else to add to the chattiness aspect

 

[Metanoia]

This is probably not what you want to hear, but perhaps you shouldn't be looking for the effects of a certain drug from a combination of others.

Every substance has its own character and charm. Chasing after the euphoria or bliss of a certain experience is usually a bad road to go down, at least IME.

Ayahuasca has given me some of the deepest, most joyful euphoric moments of my life. The same goes for high doses of psilocybe mushrooms.

I make herbal smoking mixtures, teas, and tinctures, but I am not trying to mirror the effects of a synthetic drug when I put the herbs together. You can tinker and try to emulate effects for years and never quite get where you want. Nothing replaces the real thing

 

[BigGym]

Going on what you mentioned, with the kratom and hbwr Id throw in some ephedra plant. I dont know how youd do it, or what the resulting mix would be but I remember when that was legal and it definatly has an aphrodesiac effect with a sharpening of senses and sensations that I would imagine mix with the kratom like a poor mans speedball, asa well as kick off any visuals you may get from the hbwr.

First problem I see is the vasoconstriction, ephedra speed up combo being rather harmful. It would be cool tho I suspect, if you could get around that.