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Phalaris Extraction
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Zsuzsi
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Do you mean arundinacea or aquatica/tuberosa ?
Also, have you looked on the forum for threads on this ? a simple search showed this thread, this one (including pictures of a successful, if gooey, extraction), and this one. There's also this page on Erowid, which also include an extraction report (there too with gooey but usable results).
Also, have you looked on the forum for threads on this ? a simple search showed this thread, this one (including pictures of a successful, if gooey, extraction), and this one. There's also this page on Erowid, which also include an extraction report (there too with gooey but usable results).
Okay, thank you.
I have Phalaris 'Picta' and want to do an extraction to test it if its potent.
I have not a big amount of it and so want to know whats the least amount of Phalaris that would make sense to start an extraction with. So that i either can start now or know how much i still have to let it grow. Of course i want to start the extraction as soon as possible and not grow at first a field of it to have kilos, only if neccessary.
I have Phalaris 'Picta' and want to do an extraction to test it if its potent.
I have not a big amount of it and so want to know whats the least amount of Phalaris that would make sense to start an extraction with. So that i either can start now or know how much i still have to let it grow. Of course i want to start the extraction as soon as possible and not grow at first a field of it to have kilos, only if neccessary.
Aum_Shanti
Esteemed member
Nobody can tell you that: If it is very weak, you would need acres of it. And if it contains nothing, not even the face of the world would be enough
BTW: I really like this tek:
On processing Phalaris. PDF - Advanced/Enhanced chemistry - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
But if you just wanna know, how much is in there, then first do a TLC, if there's anything at all. There you can also already guess roughly the potency.
okay just to be not in complete darkness, what is an average tryptamine content of phalaris arundinacea, with the numbers here in the wiki you can't really work, 0,0004 to 0,121, the difference is to big if every amount in between is same probable? Can you guess an average (middle) amount at all? Or are there really that vast differences in the arunduniaceas? There must be some kind of normal content or not? (sry for the unfine english 
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I mean if you just go out and cut some wild phalaris arundinacea, what is probably a suitable (little) amount to do an extraction? some experiences?
I have the problem that i have to grow the phalaris picta i want to test and want to have an idea when it makes sense to stop? So that i dont face the case that i killed all the phalaris when i would have needed more, and also not waiting for it months or more when i could have results way earlier
By the way, i will do a TLC microanalysis in the time of growing (!) (i know there is not a very high probability that it's really potent, but IF that would be... (!) )
) I mean if you just go out and cut some wild phalaris arundinacea, what is probably a suitable (little) amount to do an extraction? some experiences?
I have the problem that i have to grow the phalaris picta i want to test and want to have an idea when it makes sense to stop? So that i dont face the case that i killed all the phalaris when i would have needed more, and also not waiting for it months or more when i could have results way earlier
By the way, i will do a TLC microanalysis in the time of growing (!) (i know there is not a very high probability that it's really potent, but IF that would be... (!) )
Aum_Shanti
Esteemed member
Yes
No
With an arundinacea strain, real world you'll be lucky to get .01%, total alkaloid, if there DMT at all, it will only be a small fraction of this .01%. DMT may not be present at all, you may end up with a bunch of beta-carbolines and/or gramine.
For TLC or reagent testing you could get away with a under 100 grams just to see if there are tryptamines present at all. For an actual extraction that might yield you a tiny of puff of alkaloid goo you are probably looking at a kilo of fresh material minimum.
Phalaris really requires proper care to maximize tryptamine content, and even then arundinacea strains are extremely low in alkaloids naturally and that's just what it is.
P. aquatica and brachystachys naturally have higher alkaloid levels and more consistent tryptamine profiles, they are a much much better bet if you really want to pursue the grasses as a tryptamine source. You're really better off planting a few acacia trees though.
For TLC or reagent testing you could get away with a under 100 grams just to see if there are tryptamines present at all. For an actual extraction that might yield you a tiny of puff of alkaloid goo you are probably looking at a kilo of fresh material minimum.
Phalaris really requires proper care to maximize tryptamine content, and even then arundinacea strains are extremely low in alkaloids naturally and that's just what it is.
P. aquatica and brachystachys naturally have higher alkaloid levels and more consistent tryptamine profiles, they are a much much better bet if you really want to pursue the grasses as a tryptamine source. You're really better off planting a few acacia trees though.
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