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Pharmhuasca / AYA experience shared! Enjoy, I did! :)

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diamond

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Hi there.

I was wanting to share ayahuasca/pharmahuasca experiences on descriptive basis in here to see if there are some similar visual spaces to journey into?

It would amazing to hear from others as I had my first extremely lucid aya journey and can easily recall 'places' and received some gifts and also met some vibrant beings.

I was hoping to share these with others who may be as interested in sharing experiences and see if we cant compare and discuss these places.

I know that this forum is the most encouraging and open minded.

Thanks so much! Diamondheadfacehead...:)
 
Welcome, diamond. I'm relatively new as well, but I can tell you that the Nexus is a real oasis of knowledge, and spice communion in this desolate desert of society. Now even in an oasis there are cliques, and the Nexus itself is a clique, but people that genuinely express there love of spice won't be given a cold shoulder. So your Ayahuasca experiences, how bout it!? I'll share but first I have to learn how to make some huasca! :lol:
 
Hi diamond,

Welcome. I am also very new but have found the Nexus to be very welcoming. I would love to read about your pharmhuasca experiences. I am close to an aya experiment myself and would like to learn as much as possible about the orally activated DMT realms.

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
In my experience, with ayahuasca, it is primarily about the vine... very different to smoked dmt. Of course similar in many respects, but it feels like the vine is in control of the experience most of the time. It is possible to go deep into the realms of hyperspace but it takes skill and a strong response to a good brew. Skill in letting go completely, trusting.. more so than with smoked dmt IME. I thought a few dmt breakthrough experiences would prepare me for a strong aya does, boy was I wrong.

Ayahuasca is medicine, it is primarily about healing, and teaching. It builds a bridge from the earth to the heavens, keeping us rooted at one level and allowing our spirit to fly on another level. Often a deep healing experience can be very uncomfortable, even painful. But always worth it :) But when enough heaing has taken place for you to begin to move upwards and connect with the universe and the cosmos in all its glory, it is one of the most amazing experiences one can have.

I have not tried pharmahuasca or syrian rue as yet so cannot compare to those. In general, I prefer Ayahuasca to smoked DMT, easier to integrate, but still, feel a changa session coming soon ;)
 
Thanks so much for the responses...really appreciate it!
LONG description of my Aya jounrney ahead :)

So yes, Aya was beautiful and an intense journey but one that I think requires previous experiences with practiced mediation (my choice is vipassana), psychedelics, shrooms, DMT and then Aya.

The reason for this, I feel, is like balaganist said " Skill in letting go completely, trusting.. more so than with smoked dmt" Totally agree.I feel due to my previous experiences and working with being in the present and understanding my thoughts through vipassana mediation, my aya was very clear, personally rewarding and comfortable.

The difference I found with Aya and Spice is the 'look'. For myself, Spice is like a big rubbery changing layer, mutidimensional so ever evolving moving textures and colour and is filled with beings...some are connected, some live within the 'rooms' of colour. Aya is a larger space that I experienced, a big dark backdrop filled with flame like colours which have beings that live in each space and each place has a lesson to teach or share, and each being has its message for the visitor - you.

Within 20 minutes:
The aya came on super quick for us in about 20 minutes and could fee! strong sensation and was getting funny flashbacks of old behaviour I have since stopped:
eg: I had a flash back of myself getting mad at a beeping thermostat in the refrigerator..ha ha and it made me laugh at my old conduct!

Not sure on the doses sorry but I know that we had a larger amount of Bcaapi and a 1/3 of that amount of momosa (which was a concentrate and as much tannins out as possible!)

...first there was a whirlpool of colour that was fast and span really fast like a wormhole..I had to open my eyes now and then...pretty soon the colours were becoming brighter and slower... and I could make out 3 dimensional shapes...patterns that I can see 360o around held by different beings...thenn..eerrrrt had to be sick!

At about 45 minutes:
So ran to the bathroom - avoided puking on myself (yay!) It is as it is..your'e spewing, get used to it, even enjoy it and it will be over soon.... and soon as I as puking, thats when I had my first guide, a female of bright highlighter colours...she was letting me know when Im going to spew...so ' your going to spew!'! and a big pink tongue would come out of her like bllleeeeeerrrrtttttttt: a river of colour... She was funny and made me feel good about puking ha ha.

Then after that it really kicks in... get a blanket, and a cosy couch and stay there! Your not going to want to get up again :)
You might want some water too and low light.

First hour:
So..my first strong connection was with what I call 'the healer'. He was dark blue and green and mayan looking and was streaming healing from up high into my body through my head and raised hands. I could really feel it streaming and i said 'thank you so much! and also "bring it on" im sure :)

From there I felt like I had some photos taken of me, like visual snapshots of myself, all mapped out with highlighter yellow mapping lines.I felt like I was being shown what my physical body looks like...Then I could see myself on a kind of tower of stone in a big dark void. Here I yelled out 'is there anybody out there and got an echo back. I sensed my friend was there but over a big hill....of energy...lol. Then my mapped outline body was in an empty room. I remember thinking "Im in an empty room" then was asked "what do you want in it?" I said 'people' and they said "not just any people though" and soon my mum, family and my friend popped up in the same form, mapped outlines of their bodies.

So after that, I went on a journey to several different places.

Guides / Beings @ 2-3 hours:
I had 2 guides. One was a female who would come over wherever I was as a kind of 'screen'. She looked like glass with purple lights shooting through her image. When things become too overwhelming (remember they are multi-dimensional and eternal and we are finite) she would come down over the scene and change the energy. This happened more at the start, at the 2-3 hour mark.I also had a large dark african male with black eyes who was there from the start and I could call for him whenever I needed him. He would open his gorgeous dark eyes and 'flood' wherever I was with black. This was great especially when it was a busy intense scene (which I was the observer always)

At 3 hours:
I 'landed' in a place with many many beings. It was full of colours,light purple, whitem dark green, so every being was a different colour but they were all connected to each other with strings of their own colour. It was like a rubbery texture and I was connected to it as well. There were big strings of energy flowing high out of all the beings accross this dark void over to other beings in the far distance. My own energy was a dark green blue.. I asked many question here to a female being who was part of this rubbery world...this was very much DMT.

She said "look at your hands..energy flows from them. It's pure energy and beautiful (love, joy peace, good intention). It is a privelage to have this energy to pass through you (cycles through from others and into you from below). Its all about intention, it comes throgh you and your intention flows back and and determines how it effects others in the world."

What I gathered from this is that there are 2 different ways to send out good energy. Either directly( helping a neighbour) or universally (prayer metta). The universal love is the most effective form as it effects many more people but directed energy is strong and also good. She le me know that I am doing this in helping my friend with their lives and that she was very proud of me.

She said" raise your hands" and I watched the energy stream out and way across this void. I said " So many people you send this energy out to you will never meet" which is amazing to know you can help other peoples lives like that. At one stage the being erupted into ecstatic joy, like a huge crowd cheering at a concert or sports game and that was intense! My glass purple girl came down and I went on the other places. At time aya was sexual which was fun and beautiful...nuff said :)

I met a much older lady that was like a spider who I started to talk to. I said 'oh you speak english' She said', no you speak english there is no language here, you arent really talking' which was true. ha ha. She was spider like... huge... white and fluffy in a purple sky.

I was then taken to kind of city by 4 females felt like my age..

"This is your temple' they told me. It was dark green and Indian looking. "Look" they said "look what you planted, its growing!" there was this beautiful little bright green shoot in a teracotta planter with flames of bright pink and yellow. It was in a kind of throne, with pictures and up above I could see other peoples temples, they looked like aztec faces and were quite comical actually.

I said to the girls "oh my gosh its so cute! thanks you for showing me" and I felt that it represented by spiritual journey and that it was growing strong and healthily.

At 4 hours:
I asked about the Aftrican male and the female guide said " he is your equal, you are linked".
I told her that I was really in love with my partner and I hoed this man wasnt going to come into my future.
She seems to go and chat with another being and they came back and said..oh know we will show you"

They put us both in a yin and yan cocoon..I was looking down at myself and this man. He had the back that looked like a jaguar black and shiny and in the slinky jaguar shape.

They then lay us down beside each other. I could see myself as that mapped body framework again and he was in the same form. Then they fliiped him up on top of ms so that we were prefectly lined up. I could 'feel' his breath and the ense of a bosy on me. Then he was put 'into me' (I am the observer here) and then flipped up so that his whole frame was inside of me.

"He is you..you are him. he is your equal, he was you, you were him." This is my first past life experience and it makes much sense to me. I was effected by learning a bout the African slaves to a deep level and am in awe of any africans I meet. I still feel him inside me as my 'soul' and feel stronger since that experience. I feel that he was from the slave period as he was full of sadness and had a sense of no belongings. He was with me from the start of my journey till the very end.

At 5 hours: coming out still dreaming but was talking to my friend about what I was seeing:
From there, I met an ancient male. he was like a budda to me..I pivoted around a kind of square throne...I could see a little brown nut which looked like it was surrounded by a sea anename creature.

He said " this is for you" and handed me this seed/nut. I felt like it was a real privelage and he gave me the sense that not everyone gets to see this.

He said" this is for you to take back and share" I said " thank you so much for sharing with me!" he said thank you for being here" I said " thanks for giving it to me" he replied 'Thank you for receiving (like a little song)...and all these little green flames sprung up for everything..

The last thing I said is: Isn't this wonderful and WE (as in everything there) said "this is how its meant to be!"

I also visited my partners late father whom I have never met and reminded him to visit us.

AYA GOODNESS:
The good thing is that you can open your eyes whenever it gets intense and you can talk to those around you. Its actually amazing to share every now and then but on you go back into dream...and you feel great the next day.

At 5-6 hours..mellow and visuals are minimal.

So yeah..thats my Aya experience. Looking forward to the next journey and hearing from anyone else.

I will try to draw some pictures of this too :)
 
Hey Diamond,

Nice experience indeed.

I personally seem to struggle when it comes to "journying" with aya. I have tried many times, but never seem to get these deep and meaningful experiences that so many people report. Its when I read reports like this that keep me trying as I hope that one day this will happen to me too.

Having said that, I have had lovley times with in the past. One time I had attempted a home brew and again had achieved nothing but the usual faint mosiac/hyponogonic like imagary. This is usually as deep as i get. I put it down as another failed attempt, but being as i had a belly full on caapi tea i decided to smoke some changa too. Now, after some the strangness which seems to accompany the intial periods of smoking dmt, this petered out into the most beautiful feeling of bliss and was accompanied by lovley flowing organic kaledascopic visions.

During one of the recent jurema/rue ceremonies I had the idea of supplimenting the rue with 150mg of THH.
For the first time ever, I got full blown colourful visuals from the brew. It was also accompanied by the feeling of bliss as described in the time above. It was pretty much an identical experience.

The point being that deepest aya/dmt and moai experiences seem to give me this kaleidascopic light show and a warm nurturing feeling, which is lovely. But i have never met any beings/entites or anything like that. The images i see, that arent related to memories, i cant make any sense of at all. Its just a load of pretty colouful patterns.

From reading other peoples experiences it seems that these colourful lights are the "portal" to the "other side" but I have not yet gone any deeper. Prehaps i need to comnsume more dmt or maoi.

Anyway, although i still havent had an experience which sounds remotely like diamonds or any other deep experience for that matter, i feel i have finally began to progress a little with aya and look forward to going deeper still.

Love is that law
 
The MAOI dosage is a bit of an issue for those who had unsuccesfull journeys. If you had just to little, it won't work.

It is unpredictable when it will work, if it does. I have one experience where it literally kicked in immediately; i hadn't even put my emptied bowl on the floor and it was already working. Other times it took up to maybe 90 minutes to realy start working.

There is always an innitial sensation like :'whoah, this is going much deeper then i thought' but the more often you do it the more you'l be able to tell yourself :'relax, everything is fine'.

Even very experienced users have that feeling of intimidation innitialy, because it's always totally overwhelming and penetrating into every aspect of reality.

But basically it is by far the most blissfull experience i know of.
There is nothing that makes you so aware of how much you love this live.

You're totally sucked into the DMT realm, but as many say, the caapi vine is something of a guiding force.

If you close your eyes or are in a dark place, you're in a totally different, vibrating, energetic universe.

Entities often completely blend with the environment, they can come into being and blend in with the background. In and out, everywhere, just like with smoked DMT.

But it feels absolutely divine, holy, sacred.

It is the most fantastic thing in the world.

You can take ayahuasca with shrooms as well, instead of a DMT plant. It has the same effects. However if you take both shrooms AND a DMT containing plant, then somehow they will amplify eachother dramatically.

Rue isn't as good as caapi. I don't realy like rue. But because harmala alkaloïds greatly influence eachother, a little rue can be added to a caapi brew and can alter a trip nicely, making it a little wilder.

The incredible sharpness of details and the immense richness in colours will astound even the most experienced psychonauts.

I don't realy like chaliponga as an ingredient, although it has given me very valuable experiences as well. Chaliponga adds a sense of clarity to it that is great, but it also makes the whole journey far more alien.

Theobromine as an additive is something i don't like that much. It makes everything far less visual, but your mind starts spinning out of control.

The first few times you will just want to lie down and wonder. But walking around in a natural environment is also very, very worthwile.
Walking through the forest at night is absolutely astounding. It feels like you're making an adventurous journey. It is a true vision quest.

The last dozen times i have never had any stomach discomfort. Having some biscuits and fresh fruits around is very recomendable. When at the end of the trip, you'l eat or drink something, you can realy feel how it nourishes your body.

Don't ever drink alcohol before, during or after the trip. Even very small amounts, like one sip of wine will give you a terrible headache.

Further you don't need to worry that much about your diet.

This is truly something i can simply promise, you will enjoy. And your life will benefit from it in every way.

It's very good for your health as well. Comparable with physical exercise. I always look years younger for days after the journey. And that is no exageration.
 
Got my next session this weekend! looking forward to it. Been having a session like every 2 weeks. Been trying different combos out of my order of chaliponga, syrian rue, caapi and mimosa. The spaces which caapi and mimosa have allowed me to launch to are just 'mmm-beyond'. Humble I am trully.
I tried to type up my last experience, but the words I typed would only be a reference for myself.
I can mention though, that in my last experience, I had an 'on' and 'off' switch, -open and close. I always thought how amazing it would be to be able to close down fully at will. I'd got past the part of throwing up, thought it wasn't working so went to my room, and the space of my meditation bean bag would allow me to open up 'massively'. I could stand above it with my hands over it like you would to get warm over a fire, I'd stand there to the point where I'd start to fall over because of the disconnection to my body. I'd step back out of that area and close as I would from meditation, but like seriously back to base, no colour, focus, grounded. When I sat down in the bean bag it was like a seat in an alien spaceship, and I could control it beautifully. I'd control how far out I wanted to go, all the visuals would come in and 'my' existance would be in the sense of distance. I saw visuals I've never seen before. It would start to spiral out in to my space in a way which was just outstanding "incredible,.. just incredible.." I experimented with the open and closing, I navigated back, and stood up and away from that spot then sealed it -back to base, seriously just couldn't beleive it. I decided to ofcoarse just open up and let go and do some intentive work on parts of a core that needed work on. these parts I'm always aware of during the normal day from meditating for years, but that night I could go up and close in a sense and work on it with such clarity and ability.

The highlight of what happened in that experience I couldn't possibly convey. I could say the information which I got, because it registers in this word dialogue we're all familiar with, but the visions of, the wisdom they are a referance to, I couldn't show, -wow.. in the most wowist sense. I just don't need to know anymore, just go with the unstoppable flow, where destiny is devine.
 
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