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The reason we are looking away from acetic acid is that there has been some mention of acetate salts breaking down in concentrated pH solution - like when reducing the liquid from the two or three initial acid cooks. I'm not sure if dmt.acetate is in this weak category, but best to stay clear for the moment

HCl salts can withstand these conditions, as can phosphoric by the looks of it

No traditional defatting was done. By traditional, i mean performing multiple Shellite pulls on the acidic solution. The more yellow spice was a basic Acid -> Base -> Pull -> Precip and the whiter spice was done with Acid -> Base -> Pull -> Acid -> Base -> Pull -> Precip; the second A/B acts as a defat in this regard

The next test in the coming months will be to do side-by-side extractions using:
Phosphoric Acid
Hydrochloric Acid
Acetic Acid

In my mind, acetic acid shall be shunned for all things dmt related (god knows how much was lost over time..), but the test will be done for referrence purposes

Keep in mind that different bark was used between the making of the LexTek and the phosphoric extraction you see here. The key factor is the age of the bark (+10 years difference)

Regardless, phosphoric is looking pretty good so far

<blockquote data-quote="Viracocha" data-source="post: 3214761" data-attributes="member: 153">The reason we are looking away from acetic acid is that there has been some mention of acetate salts breaking down in concentrated pH solution - like when reducing the liquid from the two or three initial acid cooks. I&#039;m not sure if dmt.acetate is in this weak category, but best to stay clear for the momentHCl salts can withstand these conditions, as can phosphoric by the looks of itNo traditional defatting was done. By traditional, i mean performing multiple Shellite pulls on the acidic solution. The more yellow spice was a basic Acid -&gt; Base -&gt; Pull -&gt; Precip and the whiter spice was done with Acid -&gt; Base -&gt; Pull -&gt; Acid -&gt; Base -&gt; Pull -&gt; Precip; the second A/B acts as a defat in this regardThe next test in the coming months will be to do side-by-side extractions using:Phosphoric AcidHydrochloric AcidAcetic AcidIn my mind, acetic acid shall be shunned for all things dmt related (god knows how much was lost over time..), but the test will be done for referrence purposesKeep in mind that different bark was used between the making of the LexTek and the phosphoric extraction you see here. The key factor is the age of the bark (+10 years difference)Regardless, phosphoric is looking pretty good so far</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Viracocha, post: 3214761, member: 153"] The reason we are looking away from acetic acid is that there has been some mention of acetate salts breaking down in concentrated pH solution - like when reducing the liquid from the two or three initial acid cooks. I'm not sure if dmt.acetate is in this weak category, but best to stay clear for the moment HCl salts can withstand these conditions, as can phosphoric by the looks of it No traditional defatting was done. By traditional, i mean performing multiple Shellite pulls on the acidic solution. The more yellow spice was a basic Acid -> Base -> Pull -> Precip and the whiter spice was done with Acid -> Base -> Pull -> Acid -> Base -> Pull -> Precip; the second A/B acts as a defat in this regard The next test in the coming months will be to do side-by-side extractions using: Phosphoric Acid Hydrochloric Acid Acetic Acid In my mind, acetic acid shall be shunned for all things dmt related (god knows how much was lost over time..), but the test will be done for referrence purposes Keep in mind that different bark was used between the making of the LexTek and the phosphoric extraction you see here. The key factor is the age of the bark (+10 years difference) Regardless, phosphoric is looking pretty good so far [/QUOTE]