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Pictures of DMT Oxide
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SpasticSpaz
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Is DMT N-Oxide the yellow discoloration that appears on DMT that's been sitting around for a while?
Because SWIM's noticed that old DMT is noticeably more euphoric and "smooth". He rather prefers it. SWIM may need to pick up some H202 next time he stops by the store.
Because SWIM's noticed that old DMT is noticeably more euphoric and "smooth". He rather prefers it. SWIM may need to pick up some H202 next time he stops by the store.
mombreast
Rising Star
Acetone and hydrogen peroxide form Acetone peroxide which is explosive and even used by terrorists.
The reaction proceeds under an acidic catalyst but it looks to me that alcohol is a safer option.
I want to hear opinions from chemists here.
Boil off H2O2 is dangerous? Is it going to explode?
I'll use a fan anyway because here noxide is the desired chemical.
Tangarine_Dreams
Rising Star
Doooood! put 1000ml of 3% h2o2 in a non tapered container. freeze it over night. in the moning pull out all the ice. measure. repeat this untill you have only 300ml of liquid left. you now have 300ml of 28-30% h2o2 that cost about 1.20 usd and toon a day and a half to make. wear gloves!
i learned this from hobbyists from a long dead hobby of mine. not a safe post 911 to get caught making homebrew air cannons/parachute rockets. shit goes sour way faster than this hobby.
apap will form with no acid, but very very slowly. the ratio to produce the explosive is about 25% hcl. but that is using OTC 6% h2o2. using 30% h2o2 one can use 5% h2so4 to precip most of the available APAP in 30min. also important here is if you dont keep it under 10c it will form the wrong isomers and be unstable enough to det at light touch.
i would, until proven other wise, not use this mixture. apap can be scary shit.
i learned this from hobbyists from a long dead hobby of mine. not a safe post 911 to get caught making homebrew air cannons/parachute rockets. shit goes sour way faster than this hobby.
apap will form with no acid, but very very slowly. the ratio to produce the explosive is about 25% hcl. but that is using OTC 6% h2o2. using 30% h2o2 one can use 5% h2so4 to precip most of the available APAP in 30min. also important here is if you dont keep it under 10c it will form the wrong isomers and be unstable enough to det at light touch.
i would, until proven other wise, not use this mixture. apap can be scary shit.
Elf Machine
Rising Star
Anyone else compared the effects of pure DMT N-oxide with NN-DMT?
Tangarine_Dreams
Rising Star
i would say they are 2 totally different drugs when isolated and smoked on seperate days.but then again ive never done a blind test. i also add a few % of nndmt to cause it to solidify/crystallize.
most first timers prefer the oxide in my travels. this could be due to ease of vaporization tho...
most first timers prefer the oxide in my travels. this could be due to ease of vaporization tho...
Tangarine_Dreams
Rising Star
IME, which is subjective and only my own, yellow/orange/red spice can be many ways. when i isolate it it is an amber oil at the bottom of boiling heptane. so this i add a few ml of nndmt saturated heptane then remove it from heat. and let evap. it makes a cake of solid amber with a visible xtal growth thruout. it is not wet, oily, or waxy. more like crystal cake.
based off this i would assume a good deal dmt, or if my oil truly is purged of nndmt, it would be less than 10% nndmt.
to me, it has a bit longer onset, much more stoney feeling. at low doses, its like psychedelic indica pot. maybe abusable for those who dont have dmt related anxiety such as myself. at moderate dose it is an inward focused dmt. where as nndmt is akin to being launched into space, with oxide i can feel myself falling inward into myself. into a darker, more oily rainbow world. if any obvious open eye. distortions and color hues, yes. but obvious psychedelic effect on the open eyed vision no. its all about closing you eyes and going inward. a much more native, arcane substance. visions, not trips. lasts much longer. ive come out of a journey with my loved one, and 2 first timers only because the 68min cd we started at t-5min ended... no alien activity. no crystal rooms. vast dimly lit voids, visions and tribal patterns at the disassociated focal point.
to me, white is more bright, lsd like, space,and alien oriented. infinite colored crystal rooms. wonderful gold plating open eye patterning. the feeling of flying down the track of a railgun into the ethreal plane. alien knowledge being forceloaded into your mind. the need to understand. the question that is always asked upon reaching the peak of your launch path: "Are you ready to proceed?" unable to lie. ever. over half the time i answer no. hurled back to earth and my body. to enjoy an amazing open eye oddly alien feeling elf looking tryptamine world. like sinister mushrooms growing from a mouldy geometry book.
the over use of dmt to me is kind of like cheapening death a little bit. maybe its best to be familiar with the mindstate of death. but will it be boring now? i bet if i die while im conscious ill recognize the feeling. its unforgettable.
but all of that could be the power of suggestion. tho i have waited to explain the difference to several first timers until after having experienced both.
maybe oxide just doesnt burn up as much when vaped?
my gf and i can split 20mg on a bowl of pot and both get faaaar out. no breakthru. but obvious tryptamine mental and visual effects.
based off this i would assume a good deal dmt, or if my oil truly is purged of nndmt, it would be less than 10% nndmt.
to me, it has a bit longer onset, much more stoney feeling. at low doses, its like psychedelic indica pot. maybe abusable for those who dont have dmt related anxiety such as myself. at moderate dose it is an inward focused dmt. where as nndmt is akin to being launched into space, with oxide i can feel myself falling inward into myself. into a darker, more oily rainbow world. if any obvious open eye. distortions and color hues, yes. but obvious psychedelic effect on the open eyed vision no. its all about closing you eyes and going inward. a much more native, arcane substance. visions, not trips. lasts much longer. ive come out of a journey with my loved one, and 2 first timers only because the 68min cd we started at t-5min ended... no alien activity. no crystal rooms. vast dimly lit voids, visions and tribal patterns at the disassociated focal point.
to me, white is more bright, lsd like, space,and alien oriented. infinite colored crystal rooms. wonderful gold plating open eye patterning. the feeling of flying down the track of a railgun into the ethreal plane. alien knowledge being forceloaded into your mind. the need to understand. the question that is always asked upon reaching the peak of your launch path: "Are you ready to proceed?" unable to lie. ever. over half the time i answer no. hurled back to earth and my body. to enjoy an amazing open eye oddly alien feeling elf looking tryptamine world. like sinister mushrooms growing from a mouldy geometry book.
the over use of dmt to me is kind of like cheapening death a little bit. maybe its best to be familiar with the mindstate of death. but will it be boring now? i bet if i die while im conscious ill recognize the feeling. its unforgettable.
but all of that could be the power of suggestion. tho i have waited to explain the difference to several first timers until after having experienced both.
maybe oxide just doesnt burn up as much when vaped?
my gf and i can split 20mg on a bowl of pot and both get faaaar out. no breakthru. but obvious tryptamine mental and visual effects.