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Lifting_the_veil

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My gf experienced something that I havent her first time taking the journey. She said she felt an odd sensation;

She felt like something was being inflated in the center of her brain. For a period that felt like a minute she felt this odd pressure build in the center of her head and as soon as she realized that this wasnt normal it deflated/popped and went away?

Has anyone experienced this? What could it be?
 
It was the third eye, when relaxed enough you will find the "purple dot", you focus on it until you break through it, it gets closer and closer, and when you break through it, you enter hyperspace, you kind of get sucked through a vortex, and yes if you snap out of focus, it all goes blank again.
Me to, i feel the pressure in the center of my head when changing my frequency, if you work your third eye to much it can start to feel like something will pop.
I don't need to take DMT to look through my third eye and enter other frequencies, i have tried it once and it was extremely embarrassing as i had my friend with me, my trip was so erotic and real it freaked me out a little bit.
 
I like how sure you are about what it is toppy :p

Or it could be that you're smoking a highly powerful psychedelic substance that will radically change your consciousness and cause a lot of alterations in your perception, including weird feelings in the head and a bunch more things that dont necessarily correlate to some physical event :D

As long as its not hurting her or anybody else, all is good :)
 
that happens to me often as well..if you read eastern literature about then third eye in combination with yoga, meditation and the "pineal necter" there is mention of this. It is definatily not just some somatic hallucination, I think there is a real physiological component behind it.
 
Lifting_the_veil said:
My gf experienced something that I havent her first time taking the journey. She said she felt an odd sensation;

She felt like something was being inflated in the center of her brain. For a period that felt like a minute she felt this odd pressure build in the center of her head and as soon as she realized that this wasnt normal it deflated/popped and went away?

Has anyone experienced this? What could it be?

could be a defective pituitary gland
 
endlessness said:
I like how sure you are about what it is toppy :p

Or it could be that you're smoking a highly powerful psychedelic substance that will radically change your consciousness and cause a lot of alterations in your perception, including weird feelings in the head and a bunch more things that dont necessarily correlate to some physical event :D

As long as its not hurting her or anybody else, all is good :)

I can assure you i am correct without trying to sound patronizing :p

Your third eye is what you are using when you are under the influence of DMT, but when using your third eye naturally, you are more in control of its powers, it just takes practice to use it naturally, but i can get a minor "DMT" trip naturally using the third eye. When using DMT, you are opening the crown chakra which is above the third eye, and this is a chakra which is very hard to access naturally. Heres a video explaining the crown chakra

All you have to do is gather energy in your lowest chakra which is near your tail bone, forcing butterflies would be the best way to describe how to do that, and then you will find that as you keep gathering the energy, the energy will rise up the chakras, when the energy goes through your neck, it enters your third eye chakra, and this is when you can start to use its power, this is when you start feeling that energy in your forhead, and its the hardest energy to maintain, you realy have to focus until you break through the third eye, which is seen as a purple dot in your head. And it is actually in your head, you realy see it. When i first took DMT a few months back i was not even aware of this third eye, and even when i smoked the stuff i didnt realise i was looking through my third eye, its only recently that i have become very aware of it, its all i can think about now, and day by day my power is growing.

chakras.jpg
 
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While the the chakra system may be a useful tool to move perception within the body and visualize the flow of some vital force, I am skeptical of the idea that DMT acts in an identical way. My own experiences and those shared by others are too varied to equate kundalini with dimethyltryptamine. I am also skeptical of the claim that since discovering chakra "energy" 3 months ago, you have learned to move it from sacrum to crown and control the opening of the "third eye". Perhaps inhaling a unique and insanely potent psychetropic has stimulated your sense of your body, sharpened your powers of imagination and metaphor, and kindled a budding interest in esoteric traditions...?
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Ljosalfar said:
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While the the chakra system may be a useful tool to move perception within the body and visualize the flow of some vital force, I am skeptical of the idea that DMT acts in an identical way. My own experiences and those shared by others are too varied to equate kundalini with dimethyltryptamine. I am also skeptical of the claim that since discovering chakra "energy" 3 months ago, you have learned to move it from sacrum to crown and control the opening of the "third eye". Perhaps inhaling a unique and insanely potent psychetropic has stimulated your sense of your body, sharpened your powers of imagination and metaphor, and kindled a budding interest in esoteric traditions...?
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I understand and respect what you are saying, and from your point of view i could imagine saying a similar thing. I do not believe DMT will be an IDENTICAL experience as opening your crown chakra naturally, but i do believe that DMT opens your crown chakra and is near as an experience of the afterlife you will get from intoxicating your body with anything.
I discovered the chakra system only about 6 days ago, and in that time i have managed to look through the third eye and astral project. But the reason i know for sure i am correct is because i knew what i was doing when i was gathering the energy at the base in order to open the third eye, it just felt correct, and i never got knowledge from anywhere, it was only after i opened my third eye days ago that i looked on the Internet and discovered that everything i was doing in order to open the third eye correlated to how you are suppose to open the third eye, i just could feel these powers deep down is what i am trying to say. I have never taken an interest into meditation at all until after that first experience.

I have taken DMT once, and that was about 3 months ago, my trip was majorly erotic and i felt as if i was in a sphere of some sort, but thinking back now, i just felt as if that was my opening of the crown chakra. And that video i posted of youtube, is one of the most important videos i think i have watched, it has really confirmed all my beliefs in life.

Also what you say about sharpening my powers of imagination and metaphor, and kindled and interest in esoteric traditions, i do agree with this, but i think it has more so confirmed things for me with the knowledge i have gathered throughout my lifetime, i feel like i have put final pieces of a puzzle together. Well final pieces of a puzzle to the conclusion of my deepest interest if you know what i mean :/ my english is not great :p
 
toppy said:
I can assure you i am correct without trying to sound patronizing :p

Your third eye is ....


When using DMT, you are.....

These are your beliefs, and thats fine you are perfectly entitled to your own beliefs as long as they dont hurt anybody else. But let's make it clear here, there is a big difference between beliefs and fact. If you pass it as fact, better show us some solid proof. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the burden of proof is on the person making absolute truth claims. Or maybe you do know its a belief and not fact but then watch out with how you express yourself and the words you use ( "are, is, I am correct" etc etc), because you are only talking about yourself there.

Someone else may come here and say the chakra energetic system is flawed and the chinese energy canals are more accurate, or that these are all wrong and that it's all part of the extraterrestrial matrix fields. None of these could be said to be more true than others if they are all beliefs, where proof is based on subjective experience (which psychology has shown over many years how mistaken/misleading one's subjective experience and perception can be).

Please dont take what Im saying as a denial to your beliefs and experience. I have my own opinion on chakras, which doesnt matter now, all im asking is being conscious about how to use words and not to impose what dmt or the world is or isnt for others, instead expressing it as something that is for yourself (I think dmt is... It seems to me that the chakras are.... I believe that ............).

:)
 
chakras and energy canals are all flawed in reality. The absolute truth is [insert drum roll] that human bodies are made up of highly dynamic shifting ectoplasmic fields with tachion resonance structure. This means we are resonating with our future selves, being pulled forward through time. The centers of energies that some identified as chakras or nodes are nothing but arrays of resonant circuit components analogous to capacitors and coils. When we smoke dmt we can change the tuning of our overall circuitry, and thus affect the future, or rather switch channels of the future that is controlling us primarily. Strange sensations in these components is perfectly normal when they are changing frequency.

Trust me I know what I'm talking about. The egyptian Gods in the Halls of Amenti have instructed me on the secret techniques of tuning in and out of futures. If mastered you can live your life out in infinite parallels.

... m(_ _)m

sorry, I just had to let that out.

Sometimes it's hard to pinpoint beliefs, especially when one has carried them around with one for a long time. Many things we believe in are taken as fact by us. Personally I like the statement RAW made somewhere in one of his books. He said, (paraphrased) "I don't believe in anything. I suspect that certain things are so and so..." Because belief implies that you are convinced it is true. I think psychedelics more than anything however show us how things are not always what they seem and that by looking at them from a different angle a totally new layer of their existence becomes visible, overthrowing all that we believed was true. If extrapolated one conclusion that one could come to would be to not let the mind fall into the belief trap at all and remain free of ultimate truths, flexible to all possible perspectives.

It's all a matter of training the mind though. First one has to identify beliefs, separate them from facts, and then proceed. Of course the question arises what can be taken as fact, and I think this is something that one needs to decide rather than discover. One can go on to question existence itself in the sense that one says 'I only believe I exist, but I can't prove it' or 'this proof may be logical but who says logic dictates reality?' For life in general going this far may not make sense, though it certainly is a nice metal exercise for now and then. Practically I find that things that are reproducible by the scientific method for example material existence etc can be taken as fact, because there is, for me at least, no gain in thinking otherwise. It is the things we can't reproduce, we don't see the patterns in or that are not immediately checkable that one can remain un-fixed about to gain broader comprehension.

That being said, I think the experience was what it was. It was just an experience. What evolved from it? How does it continue to affect the living process you call your gf? These are the more important questions and they are more rhetoric questions, things to be answered and asked by the living-process itself.

cheers & love
Enoon
 
toppy said:
i can get a minor "DMT" trip naturally using the third eye. When using DMT, you are opening the crown chakra...

I think clearly what needs to be done here, is, to quote Snozz
SMOALK MOAR!!!!
 
The first time I used DMT a few years ago I felt like my head was going to explode. It was scary, and I really felt a lot of pressure building up in my head. It built up really fast as the DMT was hitting me then it dissipated, and I felt good after words. I only felt this the first time though, and never again. It was yellow spice, and only a threshold dose with fractal visuals. Smoked out of a bong with weed in it. Since than most journeys have been with white spice and a machine or the GVG.
 
benzyme said:
chakrap
show me evidence, not anecdotes.

toppy said:
If you think of the light spectrum, we see visible light, which is so normal to us that we do not hear the frequency. When you smoke DMT, you are raising your frequency in the colour spectrum to the violet colour, which is gamma rays.

If the sun was to have a huge solar storm, we would be hit by powerful gamma rays which will more and likely give a natural DMT trip.

 
With all due respect I don’t see that as any form of evidence.

How do you know that "When you smoke DMT, you are raising your frequency in the colour spectrum to the violet colour, which is gamma rays." .

Did he world experience a DMT-type experience from the emissions in February? "If the sun was to have a huge solar storm, we would be hit by powerful gamma rays which will more and likely give a natural DMT trip.". Again – where is this information coming from?
 
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