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Have you read *Center of the Cyclone* by John C. Lilly? He talks about his spiritual guides that come in the form of two entities as well, though without any cultural symbols attached.

thanks for the reply  i hadnt read or heard of *center of the cyclone* but just looked it up and looks like a must read. sounds pretty interesting. also i know what you mean about the no cultural symbols attached because when my dad had his drawn it was something otherworldy looking, almost like an earthworm with a vague face, made me laugh at the time. the guy said they dont always come in any earthly form, or show cultural symbolism as you might put it

just been looking up how to get mimosa hostilis, it seems you can buy it online but id much prefer to go down to my local garden shop and see what they have before putting details in online.

thanks for the help.......hope my reply works, fingers crossed