plant growing questions - MAOI's (aya)

[DruidGhost]

Hi everyone. Ive been researching MAOI's the last week, and would like to grow some plants myself.
I would like to know if there are any MAOI plants that is possible to grow in a pot inside an apartment?
it will be standing in the window where it can get sunlight during the day, and i would be able to get growlights if needed, i would prefer plants that would not need growlights though.

Ive ordered a B. caapi from germany, (living in denmark) which i also would like to know, if its possible to get any use of its MAOI properties when grown in a pot inside.

I am sorry if this has been answered somewhere before, but ive tried search function and google and havent found a defenitive answer. also apologize if some of my english sucks hope you can help me!

 

[Endurance]

Hello DruidGhost,
..... applicable name for today ..

As for your question there is an entire sub-forum dedicated to growing of entheogens that can be found here ...

This would be a good place to start.. Reading through the threads in the above linked section will provide you with a good starting point.. refine your search accordingly

Welcome :d ..

 

[Vodsel]

Hello DruidGhost,

the fact a plant is grown in a pot or in the ground should not make a difference per se when it comes to its psychoactive properties, unless the synthesis of the active compounds required the presence of something that only occurs in its native habitat, such as symbiotic micro-organisms not present in the seeds or cuttings you are getting. This does not seem to be the case with Caapi vine or other known sources of harmala alkaloids, such as Syrian Rue, as far as we know.

You only need to provide for the plant's needs. Good soil, space for roots, light, water, nutrients and some air flow. Tropical plants like Caapi do not like cold and dry places, but other than that there's no reason why you could not grow it and benefit from its properties.

Of course, growing a plant for harvest takes time, and growing Caapi until you can actually harvest vine without killing it will take years, but in the meantime you will be able to at least harvest leaf. And for many reasons, growing is a great idea

If you are looking forward to harvest plant material with a reasonable amount of MAOIs, you can also look into Syrian Rue, Peganum Harmala. It can be tricky to get going at first, but you'll reap benefits as soon as it sets seed, and according to information shared by folks here in the Nexus, roots (and to a minor extent, aerial parts like leaves and stems) also give significant alkaloid yields.

As indigo breeze suggested, take your time to browse the Ethnobotanical Garden and learn. Growing entheogens is a beautiful thing to do.

Welcome to the Nexus.

 

[DruidGhost]

Hello guys and thanks for the answers

Vodsel, i thought that the caapi maybe wouldnt be able to grow large enough in a pot, so i wouldnt be able to harvest enough to get any noticeable amount of MAOI material from it. i think i read that somewhere on the internet.

i really like the looks of the caapi, and i wouldnt grow a plant for 5 years, to then harvest it and let it die.... i don't want a plant that i cannot harvest without killing the plant...

 

[Vodsel]

i thought that the caapi maybe wouldnt be able to grow large enough in a pot, so i wouldnt be able to harvest enough to get any noticeable amount of MAOI material from it.

That depends on the time you invest... and how large the pot is

If you were thinking about a regular sized pot, say, one foot wide, it would take a long time (at least a couple years under good conditions) to actually harvest bits of stem material sustainably, and probably you'd need to do good pruning work if you wanted to grow to get some day a somewhat thick stem piece - the type they do with bonsais, and vines are not the best type of plant to bonsai easily.

But if you grow, in the meantime you would harvest leaves, eventually stem and twigs when pruning, and you can slowly build a little stash of your own caapi material to use with your smoking blends, or eventually in one very special tea.

Although truth is you would need a lot of time, and a very large plant, to cut off thick stem pieces for repeated use while keeping the plant alive, if you're thinking about harvesting the same type of material that some suppliers offer. We don't have yet an ideal, easy alternative for home sustainable production of harmala alkaloids. The closest in terms of efficiency and time would be Peganum Harmala, which can be tricky to grow in an european flat by a windowsill.

Growing is above all a vital decision, not necessarily a pragmatical one. Growing is a statement. We grow to know the plant, to develop a relationship with it. Some may say - to host the plant spirit. It's nice to look forward to the day you may use the plant as medicine, but as Martin Luther King put it, "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree."

 

[DruidGhost]

Thanks for a very nice and friendly answer!

i dont mind having a huge pot i don't need to harvest loads of material, just enough for one person having an ayahuasca trip once or twice a year.