Please help identify "stuff" from acacia extract

[Clovers]

So lets say I have not had any problems getting what appears to be fairly clean crystals from acacia confusa extracts, and all is good. Well somewhere in the process I have some discolored solvent that I set aside after it fails to give me any more crystals and dry it out and consider that stuff waste. What I ended up with seems like a very thick brown oil that never dried completely, no big deal but I can see what looks like crystals inside so I didn't discard it.

Some time ago I had intended on doing something with my waste and just forgot all about it, but now im playing with it. I tried letting some heptane pick up whatever it could and was impressed with how much I seemed to have missed, but curious me wanted to poke at my waste product some more. I poured some acetone in with my collected waste and noticed not everything was dissolved into it.

I seem to have moved a bulk of the discoloration to the acetone, but there are distinct off white blobs of what seems like oil that sit at the bottom, a very faint amount of something that seems to float around the top of the acetone and a lot of very tiny particles (crystals?) that seem to be suspended within the acetone itself.

Most of what is in there was pulled with naphtha, I had a test run with extracting using d-limonene but didn't go too far with it as I had less luck with it and it seemed to take way too long to evaporate. For the most part I wont have a hard time physically separating most of this, but I have no clue what may be what.

I am thinking what is floating on top of the acetone might just be left over d-limonene that never evaporated, particles can be filtered out without issue, and I can roll the container to collect all the white stuff at the bottom into one blob to be sucked out. Anyone have any ideas im especially curious about this white stuff at the bottom that doesn't mix with the acetone.

Thanks

 

[arcologist]

It's definitely not DMT. I once had a similar occurrence with an ACRB extract - I don't remember exactly what I was doing at the time, but I remember getting a white chalky substance that was insoluble in acetone, slightly soluble in water. I have no idea what it could be though.

 

[Entheogenerator]

I had a test run with extracting using d-limonene but didn't go too far with it as I had less luck with it and it seemed to take way too long to evaporate.

I can't help you with your inquiry but for future reference, D-limonene does not evaporate clean. So in order to use it for an extraction, one would have to salt the DMT out of the D-limo. Evaporating DMT-laden D-Limo will leave one with DMT + a bunch of other junk, all contaminated with bunch of D-limonene residue that will not evaporate.

 

[Clovers]

Alright thanks, ill discard whatever doesn't dissolve into the acetone. And as for the D-limonene, I don't like it too much. It takes forever to evaporate, costs too much, and doesn't seem to pick up as much, or seems less successful in the freezer.

 

[Entheogenerator]

Alright thanks, ill discard whatever doesn't dissolve into the acetone. And as for the D-limonene, I don't like it too much. It takes forever to evaporate, costs too much, and doesn't seem to pick up as much, or seems less successful in the freezer.

... and it doesn't evaporate completely. Also, D-limonene does not work at all for freeze-precipitating DMT. For freeze-precipitation you would need to use an aliphatic hydrocarbon like hexane, heptane, or petroleum ether (a.k.a. VM&P naphtha).

D-limonene will actually pick up more DMT than an equal volume of naphtha, but it will also pick up a lot of other stuff (read: Jungle Spice). Therefore using limonene, xylene or toluene to extract DMT would require more purification steps than using aliphatic hydrocarbons.

It might not be a bad idea to read up on this sort of thing if you plan to continue performing extractions in the future. Don't get me wrong, I'm no chemistry professor. But I have taken the time to educate myself on some of the basics regarding chemicals and solvents that I choose to work with, and it has made my life so much easier.