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Possibly dipped my toes into hyperspace without chemicals

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DauphinSuppleChirp

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Hi there!

Over two years ago, I started doing some fairly hardcore meditation, and there was some progress, apparently so much that I now have a hard time relating to people who believe the "real world" is real. That's why I'm so happy to have found the nexus. I hope you will forgive me for not ever having taken DMT, nor planning to take any, but never say never.

I'm pretty sure now that my experiences were DMT-related, considering DMT is naturally found in a human brain when it's dreaming. At first my "absorptions," as I used to call them, would happen within lucid dreams, but the last one, which occurred a few moths ago, happened right after I had woken up. I have only ever been "gone" for a few seconds at a time, up to maybe a couple of minutes. I have not really encountered any entities with whom I could communicate back and forth. Still, once you know what happens when this body disappears, you sort of lose interest in conversation with "normal" people for whom sex is the greatest pleasure and death the worst thing imaginable.

There is one thing in particular that occurred to me just a few days ago: The periods in my life when I had those "absorptions" seem to coincide with my consumption of aloe vera. I'm about to start taking it regularly again, so maybe I will be able to report more in a few weeks.

Other than that, I will probably be mostly reading rather than posting, for obvious reasons. Thanks for creating the nexus. I feel much less lonely now.
 
Could you describe what you experience in any more depth? You haven't really told us anything about it

A lot of wierd states can be tapped into via meditation

Welcome to the nexus
 
DauphinSuppleChirp said:
Still, once you know what happens when this body disappears, you sort of lose interest in conversation with "normal" people for whom sex is the greatest pleasure and death the worst thing imaginable.
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Is this meditation-induced snobbishness? You might have had some quite revealing experiences but it is often wise not to start making and attacking those elusive sex-loving, death-fearing elusive straw men.

To paraphrase Entropymancer: before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water, enjoy sex and beware of death. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water, enjoy sex and beware of death.
 
Welcome aboard DauphinSuppleChirp. I love meditation also, it is a great tool in the arsenal of mind exploration for self improvement. I have a different outlook on the physical world though.

I find my explorations give me a greater interest in the everyday "normal" world, existence and people. In our current state, we have no choice but to spend the majority of our time in the physical world we are in. If we break away from this, there is a chance that it could be to our detriment.

Instead (personally) I prefer to use my explorations to better immerse myself and enjoy the "normal" world. Welcome again, and thank you for sharing your opinions with us.

Peace

Macre

P.S. Sorry to be a nuisance, though I have to point out that there is no evidence to suggest that dreaming is due to DMT produced in the brain.
 
It's interesting to learn that there is significant doubt about the connection between DMT and dreams. I apologize if I sounded snobby. Truth be told, I just assumed I would be one of the least advanced/experienced people here, and therefore I was not even considering the possibility that people who think sex is the best thing ever and death the worst thing ever might be reading my post.

I can't really report much, because I haven't had much of an experience. Just barely enough to recognize the moment-to-moment nature of existence, to recognize that any real thing that I thought was "I" is fundamentally the same as any other real thing, and that's just about it. The "trippy" experiences that I have were few and far between. Let me give a few examples, since you asked for it :D

The very first one happened in a dream. I was sitting in a big hall held up by columns, surrounded by forest. This is no place I know from real life, but I can imagine something like this exists maybe somewhere in India or Thailand. I was just trying to be very still, looking at the trees, and at the end of an out-breath, my vision started strobing. It looked just as if I were opening and closing my eyelids as fast as I could and lasted for maybe half a second. When I started breathing in again, everything was back to normal. On the next out-breath, it started again, and this time it persisted, and a breath later, I was gone. I could not see anything anymore, the only thing left was the sensation of falling/floating, slightly sideways, into a state where there was no body, just a general pleasant mental feeling. This lasted for a few seconds, and then I woke up.

The strongest one I have ever had happened when I was about to fall asleep or had just fallen asleep. A green visual appeared, not particularly intricate, but I couldn't recall its exact form afterwards. Then a loud tone started, very similar to a sawtooth wave. I found it neither pleasant nor unpleasant, but after a couple of seconds, it started to chop. It sort of fragmented into smaller and smaller pieces. Then it was gone, again I fell into a very similar state as the above, only this time it was much stronger, the mental feeling also went away, and then there was nothing. I don't know how long that lasted, but probably just a couple of seconds. As I came out of it, I heard the most beautiful music, and a few seconds after that I was totally back to normal, except I couldn't even remember a single note of that music.

Something similar happened months later, except this time I was just relaxing, not really close to falling asleep, when it started happening. Again all hearing and seeing stopped for a few seconds, but this time there was still some thinking. In particular I had the thought that this was the first time something like this has happened to me when I was definitely not asleep or falling asleep. This very thought, though, brought me right back out of it.

The most "concrete" experiences are not as pleasant and don't feel as useful. They usually revolve around the theme that, on occasion, I will be able to close my eyes and see—not just imagine, but actually see—some pattern, and most of the time, I can influence the pattern by thinking. One time, when I had a really solid experience of this nature. I couldn't just subtly change the patterns, but I could cause pretty much anything I wanted to appear, so I thought it might be interesting (and possibly quite beautiful) to create the image of a naked woman. So I did, and it worked for a second or two, but then the whole thing ended.

The only experience that somewhat resembles hyperspace as you guys seem to be describing was what happened to me when I was hypnotized. I wanted to be hypnotized just for fun. I didn't know anything about it at the time, but trusted the woman who did it. She never told me this, but what she actually did with me was an attempt at past life regression. Instead of a human past life, I suddenly found myself floating in a huge, black space with purple and orange blobs of light. They were alive, and I was one of them. Their shape was simple and blurry, but the colors were very intense, even though only those two colors existed, with the exception of the light that was myself. I was green and blue with a more complicated pattern, not really something I could draw, though. To be more precise, I wasn't actually that thing itself, but it felt sort of like I was a disembodied mind looking at its body, and that body was the green/blue blob. The other lights (the purple and orange ones) seemed like they were trying to guide me. They felt very benevolent, but actual communication did not happen.

That's about it. As you can see, my experience compares to yours like walking around my house would compare to flying overseas. The point is, though, I have left the house and know that there is a much bigger "real world" out there than I could have ever imagined. This forum is my way of finding out about it.

My original post was meant to be read in this context: I am someone who knows that what you guys experience is real. It interests me more than the so-called real world, but at the same time I know next to nothing about it.
 
Hi DauphinSuppleChirp, nice intro and welcome to the Nexus!

Have you looked into phosphenes before? I've had similar experiences with the building of imagery and the control over the imagery in meditation or before sleeping. While DMT is much more intense and abstracted, many times DMT also builds form from a basic "primordial ooze" as I've call it while tripping. With LSD I've found the imagery much more vivid than waking life and is also much easier to guide into form.

Wikipedia - Phosphene
Religous Visions of Light This website has some basic animations and descriptions, both mystic and scientific are addressed.

The "absorptions" as you call them are also a known phenomena. It is basically a stream of subconscious thoughts breaking through to consciousness, although scientifically the nature of the subconscious is still largely undefined.

The "real world" is certainly much stranger than we are aware of and fun to explore, but don't let that fool you into thinking it is anything less than real. Life is precious and many aren't given the opportunities to fully enjoy the beauty of what it is capable of.

Hope to see you around, if you have questions don't hesitate to post on the forums or join the chat (and check FAQ/wiki/search/yadayada).
 
Keep searching & Stop judging!
I have had no experience with dmt or lsd (few "nothings" with lsa seeds). I don't even have lusid dreams... But still i am in a middle of the "real world" and something that has to be!

Some times it is depressing. I kind of feel alone, no idea why the f... Do we live?... But we do live! And only thing we can do is keep searching and sharing (but never belive and never force others to belive)

P.S.
If you are interested in DMT just try it
 
Sounds good man. I can somewhat agree on the real world thing. I thought it was all the stuff i was interested in that made it hard to relate to people but i realize its been my inability to remove certain mental programs/perceptions in myself.
 
Infundibulum said:
To paraphrase Entropymancer: before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water, enjoy sex and beware of death. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water, enjoy sex and beware of death.
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I definitely second Infundibulum here, chopping wood is a task towards enlightenment. And don't forget to smoke DMT!

No DMT, no enlightenment! 😁 How do I know? Well, I'm enlightened, too. Aliens abducted me into their spaceship, where they forced me to take a big hit of their alien-grade DMT. After that, I received the teachings from Entropymancer himself.

So yeah, welcome to the Nexus, DauphinSuppleChirp. Lots of enlightened people here. :thumb_up:
 
No pressure to use DMT, as it, and all psychedelics are a tool or catalyst to the spiritual realm. If you can naturally have these experiences they may seem more valuable to you. Although many of us know how true and valuable DMT experiences are, I feel you hold the same respect for your natural visionary states.
 
Sounds like you have had some powerful experiences. Meditation is an amazing practice, and has so many benefits. The mind is a powerful instrument with many ways in which it can be trained and unlocked. What sort of meditation have you practiced or are practicing? I've been working for anapanasati for a little while now.

Peace

Macre
 

Give this thread a good scan through.

Some interesting experiences you described there, I have often felt like I was being drawn through something, a wormhole or such, in an almost sleeping state. I usually get a little exited when I start seeing a green tunnel and odd pyramid shapes entrancing me, then it fades... almost as if to say 'you should have kept your cool'.

DMT is guaranteed to smash all your notions to bits at any stiff vaped dose, even the notion of notions will leave you pancaked in a neon rift.

This may not mean much now, but you are welcome to the discovery, glad to have you aboard :)
 
Hello DauphinSuppleChirp,

Welcome to the Nexus. Yours is a fascinating story indeed. Thank you for sharing.

May I ask your age? I don't want to make any assumptions, but you sound rather young and inexperienced to me. Have you had a lot of experiences with things like sex and death? Have you plugged into the real world in a way that allows you to understand that it is all too real?

Meditation is great and it has really helped me to quiet and calm my mind. My dreams are off the chart crazy due to DMT exposure and taking a hefty dose of Cymbalta (for chronic pain) daily. I can go lucid simply by spending a few days practicing reality checking.

I have been with the same man for 25 years and the sex over that time has ebbed and flowed but overall it was/is completely and utterly amazing. Nothing like coming with the being you truly LOVE. Nothing like experiencing that the only thing that could possibly amplify YOUR pleasure now at THIS moment is to know that YOU are amplifying your partner's pleasure . . .

Death has been a constant and tragic slap in the face to me since age 18. I've lost so many family and friends, many to violent and horrible circumstances. I am really sick of going to funerals and hope I will never have to procure dental records again for body identification, etc. Grim stuff that makes me cherish every moment of every life (even those of the non-Nexians or "non-enlightened" out there). That makes me try to embrace the content of my signature below . . .

I wonder if you might be willing to share your experiences - have you walked much in the realms of Thanatos/Eros?

By the way, have you tried any entheogens at all in your life to date? If so , what did you think?

And my final question for now: What brings you to the Nexus? You mentioned the people. . . what do you hope to accomplish in your time here? There's so many areas - I strongly recommend you look around. I bet you will find multiple things that deeply interest you.

Okay, here's looking forward to learning more about you. . . .Again, welcome to the Nexus.
 
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