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idtravlr

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Last week I posted a thread about a possible potentiation blend that I wanted to try. Well, I tried it, and here is the report! I think I will call this "pharma-changa", since it's basically an oral, capsulized, changa blend taken before smoking. :) See my old post or shout back at me if you want the blend details again.

OK, long but interesting (I hope) report here:

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you guys on this. I was able to try this blend (4 caps taken a few hours earlier in the day) along with spice yesterday. I can say with confidence that this blend is definitely a potentiator of the spice! I did a super clean vaporization of about 35 to 40 mg, and the spice vaped soooo nicely I was able to hit the entire dose in one long deep slow hit. I was blasting off before I was even finished with the hit, so I just kept going until I couldn't make sense of anything any longer.

I fumbled the pipe and lighter to the nearest flatish looking surface I could find. Sitting in the cross legged Bhuda position I was immediately transported into hyperspace and interacting with entities before I could even track the typical phases of fear, confusion, euphoria, recognition, understanding and knowledge gain. I pretty much skipped right past these initial two phases and blasted straight into the recognition phase of hyperspace. Definite elves on this one, and it started pretty typical where they were taking me through hyperspace while communicating and showing me "things". It rapidly changed however...

Suddenly, and seemingly out of nowhere, it was as if they had recently had some kind of catastrophic event happen in their realm. The first area I was guided to was what I can only describe as two giant beams that had collapsed, like big wooden structural beams, except they were made purely of light and energy. There was an elf or entity of some sort that was wedged between these beams and trapped. My guide and I were able to use what I can only describe as telekinetic energy to help free this trapped elf. Once he was free there was a big cheer from the community, similar to what you might hear on an initial breakthrough, but with a deep feeling of gratitude implied as well.

Things start to become foggier in my memory after that, but I remember at least one other entity that was trapped in debris and needed assistance to be freed. We helped him as well. From that point I recall it being a more "typical" breakthrough (is that an oxymoron?) of complete detachment from my earthy body and total ego-death. Pure bliss and engagement and learning, and spectacular CEV's for the standard 10 or 15 minutes you'd expect from a typical journey...

Here is where the clear potentiation effects of the herbal blend made itself known however. I felt like I was coming back into my body and out of hyperspace, and no sooner could I think "bummer, I'm coming back" when a sudden rush, and secondary wave came over my entire being. I was suddenly being blast off again, back into hyperspace. It was completely pleasant, euphoric, and blissful, but I was just shocked that I was going back in w/o having to take another hit. This cycle repeated two more times (at least) before I actually came down for the last time. The entire experience lasted between 40 and 50 minutes by the time I was back to the "after glow", and the after glow lasted a solid 15 minutes or more.

My memory's of the return trips are not as vivid as that initial one however, and I cant describe them in much detail at this point. All I can truly recall is that there were entities, visions, and knowledge in abundance in each and every "cycle". My entire experience lasted at least close to a solid hour. Longer if you include the gentle buzz and euphoria that generally hangs around for a bit afterward.

This was an amazing journey. I loved the multiple peaks and valleys of the experience, and the only thing I can attribute this to is the entho-blend caps I took. I will ABSOLUTELY be repeating this experience, but next time I'm going to add 3 d. stramonium seeds to the mix! I can't wait!!

Sorry for the long, poorly written post, but just HAD to purge it all out here! I'm truly blown away by this experience! I would highly recommend it!

Peace!!
-idt
 
SWIMfriend said:
Could you remind us, here, of the contents of the potentiation blend?

Great report!
Yeah. z-eclectic sells it under the name Yellow nEuphoria. This what it contains in general. When you get the stuff it has a more detailed description of qty. of each extract:

Contains : Rhizoma Corydalis Yanhusuo (80% [THP]), Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea), Humulus lupulus (8% Lupulinum), N-Acetyl-Cysteine, Bacopa Monnieri (20:1 Concentration), Big Red (Cayenne Fruit Extract), Rhodiola Rosea (3% Rosavins), Vinpocetine, Bioperine (Piper Nigrum), Cocoa Bean (98% [PEA]) and Octopalean (97.5% Octopamine)

Not intentionally pimping z-eclectic here, but he is a great vendor in my experience!

Peace
-idt
 
Hmmm, I wonder if the key ingredient is really vinpocetine. It's a great enhancer of blood flow to the brain--and is known to enhance memory, as well.

I'm really eager to hear more reports about this. If the effect you describe is consistent it's a major find!!
 
SWIMfriend said:
Hmmm, I wonder if the key ingredient is really vinpocetine. It's a great enhancer of blood flow to the brain--and is known to enhance memory, as well.

I'm really eager to hear more reports about this. If the effect you describe is consistent it's a major find!!
I could be wrong here (I'll do some research), but I believe PEA is also a mild MAOI.

I have to order some more to continue my experiments since I only bought a few to test 'em out. I'll let you know as soon as I document the next go-round.
 
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Hey guys,

I found a source on the following herbal blend that comes in capsules for oral ingestion. To me it sounds like it could be a nice potentiator for the spice. I'm thinking of picking some up to try. Any thoughts on this blend? Here is the reported compounds. Unfortunately it doesn't say how much Blue Lotus is in it, which would be good to know:

Contains : Rhizoma Corydalis Yanhusuo (80% [THP]), Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea), Humulus lupulus (8% Lupulinum), N-Acetyl-Cysteine, Bacopa Monnieri (20:1 Concentration), Big Red (Cayenne Fruit Extract), Rhodiola Rosea (3% Rosavins), Vinpocetine, Bioperine (Piper Nigrum), Cocoa Bean (98% [PEA]) and Octopalean (97.5% Octopamine).

Peas,
-idt
Life's not

From this thread: Potentiation Blend? - Vaping/Smoking - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Sounds very much like the rolling aya adventure...waves of hyperspace.

What is the name on that blend there?
 
acolon_5 said:
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Hey guys,

I found a source on the following herbal blend that comes in capsules for oral ingestion. To me it sounds like it could be a nice potentiator for the spice. I'm thinking of picking some up to try. Any thoughts on this blend? Here is the reported compounds. Unfortunately it doesn't say how much Blue Lotus is in it, which would be good to know:

Contains : Rhizoma Corydalis Yanhusuo (80% [THP]), Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea), Humulus lupulus (8% Lupulinum), N-Acetyl-Cysteine, Bacopa Monnieri (20:1 Concentration), Big Red (Cayenne Fruit Extract), Rhodiola Rosea (3% Rosavins), Vinpocetine, Bioperine (Piper Nigrum), Cocoa Bean (98% [PEA]) and Octopalean (97.5% Octopamine).

Peas,
-idt
Life's not

From this thread: Potentiation Blend? - Vaping/Smoking - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Sounds very much like the rolling aya adventure...waves of hyperspace.

What is the name on that blend there?
"Rolling", "Waves of hyperspace" is an excellent description. That's exactly how it felt. The euphoria was tremendous too! Each time it came "rolling" on I just felt so warm and peaceful and happy. Just complete bliss, like an orgasm of consciousness...

The blend is called "Yellow nEuphoria". Since my last post I have found it at many online nutrition sites. Just google it and you can read the details of the ingredients on any one of these sites. It seems to sell for about $30USD per 90 capsules.

I am interested in experimenting to find which extract(s) are responsible for the apparent synergistic effects. Not quite sure how to break it down to that level though other than buying each extract individually and begin a lengthy series of tests.

Any other thoughts from the bio-chem guys, or anyone else out there?
 
idtravlr said:
Sorry for the long, poorly written post, but just HAD to purge it all out here! I'm truly blown away by this experience! I would highly recommend it!

Peace!!
-idt

Thanks so much for sharing this IDT! I will order some today and also try it and let everyone know if it works for me too.
The extention of a smoked spice trip is something I would really like to gain as the trip is wonderful but ends too soon. I don't know if I would want a long ayhauasca trip though.
Anyway, I'll post my results in a few weeks.
 
SWIMfriend said:
I'm really eager to hear more reports about this. If the effect you describe is consistent it's a major find!!
I wouldn't agree more! This report is both beautiful and promising. Now, re to the herbal mix, SWIM has no idea as to which components could have affected the experience in such a way - It is not just potentiation but the fact that it was also coming on waves. This is very unique for smoked spice indeed.

More reports are certainly imperative. SWIM'll go and try to find out what may be so special about this herbal blend.

Good job idtravlr!
 
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I love the Nexus. I love the pioneering spirit and collective knowledge.

I will at the very least do some wiki or google for the sake of expanding our knowledge base.

Get back to you soon...


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In addition I should point out that I was also drinking Kratom tea last night. I don't think the Kratom had anything to do with this experience, but since others are going to be experimenting you might want to try throwing that in your cocktail as well. 8)
 
SWIMfriend said:
Hmmm, I wonder if the key ingredient is really vinpocetine. It's a great enhancer of blood flow to the brain--and is known to enhance memory, as well.

I'm really eager to hear more reports about this. If the effect you describe is consistent it's a major find!!


I have used vinpocetine and did not notice anything at all. of course thats me others may have effects

none of the nootropics I have taken seem to have any effect on dmt experance. again thats me

I have to check this out
 
I think it's quite possible kratom made a lot of difference.. Kratom has mild psychedelic effects for me in it's own right.. Not really visions or pronounced effects, but it's an opiate experience for the large part.. but then once in awhile, usually when I've used a lot, I get an odd visual effect.. something like a darkening of peripheral vision.. When smoking cannabinoid variety smoking blends with kratom, it is much much more trippy.. XXX Chillin goes from a little trippy for me, to almost full blown psychedelic on kratom.. This is unique to kratom for me.. I will get definite CEV's with the combination.. Kratom has some unique interactions with the mind.. I feel like there was a study or hypothesis someone told me or I read somewhere that kratom could be active in some way in the adrenergic system.. Considering Strassman's theory about endogenous DMT being released if there is a strong enough adrenal response (I believe this is what he said) then the combination of kratom, octopamine (if I remember right it's similar to ephedrine or some sort of stim) the Theobromine and other chemicals in Cacao.. etc.. they could all add up with DMT to possibly have some sort of release of more endogenous DMT.. maybe it's somewhat like when you spill water on a table.. once the first bit of liquid slowly approaches the edge, it takes a bit to break the edge and fall off.. then the rest is able to follow suit easier.. maybe it's like the smoked DMT is a push, and combined with the stimulation of the adrenal systems, it starts to push DMT in some increments, our own DMT along with the exogenous, and it's creating this sort of rolling wave sensation.. maybe it's occasionally letting bits of DMT go when it normally would not.

This is all speculation but I wanted to add in my own theory on this since I've been re-re-reading Strassman's book lately and it's fresh in my mind. Maybe the combination plus the stress on the mind from exogenous DMT is enough to get the endogenous DMT to start releasing in small bursts.. Who knows? It's possible.. Strassman seemed to think it might be possible somehow when doing his trials.. he thought maybe the injected DMT would help override the pineal defense system and allow more to be released.. maybe the various adrenergic agents cause it to play out the way Strassman imagined. Food for thought.
 
Eclectic said:
I think it's quite possible kratom made a lot of difference.. Kratom has mild psychedelic effects for me in it's own right.. Not really visions or pronounced effects, but it's an opiate experience for the large part.. but then once in awhile, usually when I've used a lot, I get an odd visual effect.. something like a darkening of peripheral vision.. When smoking cannabinoid variety smoking blends with kratom, it is much much more trippy.. XXX Chillin goes from a little trippy for me, to almost full blown psychedelic on kratom.. This is unique to kratom for me.. I will get definite CEV's with the combination.. Kratom has some unique interactions with the mind.. I feel like there was a study or hypothesis someone told me or I read somewhere that kratom could be active in some way in the adrenergic system.. Considering Strassman's theory about endogenous DMT being released if there is a strong enough adrenal response (I believe this is what he said) then the combination of kratom, octopamine (if I remember right it's similar to ephedrine or some sort of stim) the Theobromine and other chemicals in Cacao.. etc.. they could all add up with DMT to possibly have some sort of release of more endogenous DMT.. maybe it's somewhat like when you spill water on a table.. once the first bit of liquid slowly approaches the edge, it takes a bit to break the edge and fall off.. then the rest is able to follow suit easier.. maybe it's like the smoked DMT is a push, and combined with the stimulation of the adrenal systems, it starts to push DMT in some increments, our own DMT along with the exogenous, and it's creating this sort of rolling wave sensation.. maybe it's occasionally letting bits of DMT go when it normally would not.

This is all speculation but I wanted to add in my own theory on this since I've been re-re-reading Strassman's book lately and it's fresh in my mind. Maybe the combination plus the stress on the mind from exogenous DMT is enough to get the endogenous DMT to start releasing in small bursts.. Who knows? It's possible.. Strassman seemed to think it might be possible somehow when doing his trials.. he thought maybe the injected DMT would help override the pineal defense system and allow more to be released.. maybe the various adrenergic agents cause it to play out the way Strassman imagined. Food for thought.

Interesting Eclectic. At first I thought you were suggesting the Kratom on its own could have this reaction with the DMT. I have vaped spice w/ Kratom before and never got this effect, so I know that's not the case. You make a viable point however, that the Kratom could synergize with some of the other elements of the supplement and the DMT to create the wave effect. I guess I will just have to continue my studies and find out! 😉

I have more Yellow nEuphoria ordered, so I shall continue briefly!

A note to anyone ordering the Yellow nEuphoria... I noticed that there is new version of this blend that is available now, and it's called "Yellow nEuphoria Gen2". The new extract complex is different than the original, so I would recommend trying to find the original (non "Gen2") version. I've noticed that a lot of stores don't have the original version in stock, so either you guys ordered it all up, or it might be getting phased out for the Gen2.

Can't wait to hear some feedback from those who try it!

Peace
-idt
 
Bump... Has anyone else had a chance to try this combination? I just received a replenishment of Y. nEuphoria caps, so I'm planning on a "reentry" experiment very soon (Thurs or Fri), but was curious if anyone else has tried this since I last posted on it.

Peace
-idt
 
polytrip said:
Rhodiola is also a MAOI.

I have just stumbled across some other info on this particular source of MAOI... has any ever experimented with it? seems that is may have some significant potential...
 
Contains : Rhizoma Corydalis Yanhusuo (80% [THP]), Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea), Humulus lupulus (8% Lupulinum), N-Acetyl-Cysteine, Bacopa Monnieri (20:1 Concentration), Big Red (Cayenne Fruit Extract), Rhodiola Rosea (3% Rosavins), Vinpocetine, Bioperine (Piper Nigrum), Cocoa Bean (98% [PEA]) and Octopalean (97.5% Octopamine).

Octopamine, that's weird, I was reading about that a few weeks ago. Apparently it is an amphetamine-like chemical that was recently found in certian species of octopus. It is used by the octopus to help them move extremely quickly to avoid being eaten.

I would be very careful using this blend with any strong MAOI's.
 
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