Question on mixing soup and solvent

[EmeraldAtomiser]

Hello.
I've been wondering about how the dmt dissolves from the soup into the nps. My brain kind of struggles with the thought of something being dissolved in one liquid and then transferring to a different liquid without becoming a solid.
Am I right to think that this would happen even if the two liquids were not mixed together, but just left? Also how long would this take do we think if you just left your extraction for a couple of weeks would the dmt have dissolved into the solvent? just wondering

 

[Transform]

Just noticed your question here…

The DMT diffuses across the boundary between the aqueous and the non-polar phases. Freebase DMT prefers to associate with the less polar solvent, to put it simply.

Leaving the mixture for a few weeks, without stirring or shaking as you suggest, is likely to be less effective than, say, swirling the jar once a day. This is because a stationary, or nearly stationary, concentration gradient could form and the cross-boundary diffusion would more or less cease.

Another issue would be that longer contact time with the base increases the chances of goo/polymer formation, which would also make the extraction less effective.

 

[fractals4life]

Hello.
I've been wondering about how the dmt dissolves from the soup into the nps. My brain kind of struggles with the thought of something being dissolved in one liquid and then transferring to a different liquid without becoming a solid.
Am I right to think that this would happen even if the two liquids were not mixed together, but just left? Also how long would this take do we think if you just left your extraction for a couple of weeks would the dmt have dissolved into the solvent? just wondering

I think the freebase isn't dissolved in the alkaline soup, just suspended, as it isn't soluble in water.

 

[Transform]

I think the freebase isn't dissolved in the alkaline soup, just suspended, as it isn't soluble in water.

This is a good point. The DMT in its salt form is dissolved evenly throughout the aqueous phase. When each molecule becomes deprotonated by the base - which is still an equilibrium process, with a lower and lower proportion of protonated molecules as the pH increases - they become lipophilic but, in that instant, are still relatively isolated from one another (depending on the initial concentration). In that sense, they are still dispersed throughout the aqueous phase as though they were dissolved, and only begin to aggregate over time through processes of diffusion.

This is another reason why mixing the base soup and the NPS helps to hasten the transfer of the freebase out of the aqueous phase.

 

[EmeraldAtomiser]

Very interesting.
Thanks, Transform.