Question regarding safety of combining 25x-NBOMe with harmalas.

[SomewhatLost]

Hi all,

I recently had my first substantial experience with mescaline and it was blissful. I preloaded with about 300mgs of harmalas and an hour later took what I had dubbed my "ball o' bliss" which contained ~400mgs of cactus alkaloids (from an hcl salting, not cleaned) ~150mgs of jungle spice and another ~150mgs of harmalas. The experience was fantastic. Pretty much like one of the best MDMA rolls I've ever had, but with no body load or discomfort (either mental or physical) whatsoever. It took about 2 hours after dosing the BoB before I got any effects, but once it kicked in, it was a solid 5 hours of just feeling great, more relaxed than I think I've ever seen. There was a slight visual element to the trip, waving my hand in front of my face seemed to create ripples like my hand was in a pond. Mostly, however, it was just a very nice, long and consistent body high (oh, and eating oranges about 3 hours in was absolutely amazing).

My birthday is in a few weeks and I was thinking of stepping up the trip a little bit and adding some 25C-NBOMe to the mix. I've heard a number of people combining 25i-NBOMe with mescaline and I've heard nothing but good things from the combo, I'd imagine that 25C would be rather similar. I know that mescaline seems to have no adverse effects when combined with the harmalas, but I'm not so sure about the NBOMe series of drugs. I know that they are also phenethylamines like mescaline, but I've heard very little regarding the safety of combining them with MAOIs.

Obviously, I don't intend to take this combo unless I'm reasonably certain that it's safe. Does anyone have any information on the safety of this combination? Basically, I was just looking to recreate my recent trip which was more euphoric than anything else and just add a more visual element to it. I know that combining the NBOMe with mescaline is safe (so long as the NBOMe is dosed properly), but I know that adding the harmalas changes things quite a bit. Would I want to take a smaller dose of NBOMe if I were to do this? Perhaps around 300ug? Would I want to leave out the harmalas altogether? I was hoping to use them in order to conserve the cactus alkaloids I have remaining, but if it's a dangerous combo, I'll just nix them. Any information that can be provided would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

[gory dkalz]

If I were you, I would add more mesc, more dmt, or more of both if you want more of a visual trip.

I have no evidence to back it up, but mixing any phenethylamines with harmalas could be harmful. Especially with the NBOMe's which are active at the microgram range.

Be safe.

 

[SomewhatLost]

Hi gory,

Thanks for the advice. I have very limited experience mixing phenethylamines with harmalas, but I've read of a number of people mixing mescaline (a phenethylamine) with harmalas to good effect and I did that this past weekend and it worked very well. So I'm fairly certain it can be done with SOME PEAs, I just don't know if the NBOMes are amongst them. As you say, the extremely small active dose might make things a bit dangerous.

I'm trying to preserve my cactus as much as possible, but I do think I'll probably be doing it next without the Rue for my birthday. I'm thinking of taking around 800mgs of the cactus alkaloids and maybe 800ug of the NBOMe along with it an hour or so later. Either that, or I'll leave the NBOMe out completely and then take 600mgs of cactus alkaloids, ~150mgs jungle spice with maybe 350mgs harmalas a half hour ahead of time. Decisions, decisions.

 

[Lumos]

I have not heard of any evidence to say that it could be harmful.The only thing I could see it doing is producing a stronger experience than one would expect. I intend to try this sometime but of coarse it must be done slowly to figure out how the two respond.

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

No, this is dangerous. Mixing the 2C's and MAOI's can give bad side effects, and the one time I did (accidentally) mix the two I got very bad side effects the main one of which was a pounding headache. I am not sensitive to MAOI reactions a have routinely used 300+ mg (est.) caffeine in a day with harmalas with no bad side effects. This was clear, I'm just glad it was a TINY dose of harmalas. These drugs are dangerous enough on their own. Don't be a casualty!