Re-x questions...

[Dodongo]

Going to do a re-x today, mostly to get all of the residue out of a few pint jars I've been freeze precipitating in, but also to clean my spice and hopefully come up with a little bigger crystals that are easier to work with.

So this is my plan.. I've got three piles of spice laid out in my pyrex pie pan, all from different pulls and different colors, ranging from white to orange. I've also got a jar that just finished freeze precip and has maybe a half pint of used naptha in it (used for a few pulls now, getting dark).

Thinking about taking the jar and pouring all of the naptha into my pyrex dish, with the spice in it currently, and then having that evaporate. Or should I just put the used naptha back into my MHRB and try for another pull, and instead put new naptha into the dish w/ spice?

I was also going to add some naptha to each jar with residue in it, not sure how much or whether to use new or used naptha, put the lid on and shake to get all the crystals dissolved (hopefully!) and then pour them into the pyrex dish as well.

Would this method leave me with some nice spice in the dish after evaporation, or should I try something else? I've already tested my stuff and it seems great, just not sure if I want to keep the colors separated, would rather just re-x all of it, unless I'd lose very much product.

Thanks for the help, guys. Always appreciated.

 

[Compound37]

Hey Dodongo

Re crystallizations definitely make the spice a lot more enjoyable, good luck.

I always use my leftover naptha from my freeze percips right into the next tray of naptha pulls thats about to be evapped. That way I figure if I missed some the first evap, hopefully this will catch it.

When getting residue from the jars that are already scraped I usually use new naptha, or else a lot of people have been suggesting iso washes with alcohol. I don't know the full story regarding this myself however, so not a lot of advice.

You mentioned you wanted nice big crystals? Do you have your pyrex dish covered, when going for large crystal formations I usually put a plastic lid over my pyrex and punch a couple of holes in it, it goes a lot lot slower, but makes for some beautiful crystals.

Hope this helps!

 

[DeMenTed]

dodongo if you are going to add naptha to your spice and let it evaporate then you are missing the point of re-x.

Add clean warm naptha to your spice in a shot glass or whisky glass and let the dmt dissolve. Any impurities will fall to the bottom of the glass leaving your dmt saturated naptha clean
Separate clean naptha from the gunk and then evaporate

 

[Compound37]

Was talking re-x, but also sounded to me like he needed to get the spice out of the jars before he could re crystalize it.

 

[Dodongo]

Sorry for the confusion, I wasn't exactly sure what all a re-crystalization entailed but now I know.

I'm just going to add some warm naptha to each jar to get the residue out, and then dump them into my pyrex dish over all the spice I've already pulled and dried. Sound like a good plan?

And then afterwards if I'm not happy with the quality, I'll do a proper re-x with the shot glass.

Should the residue in my jars dissolve pretty easily when I put some warm naptha in? I was planning on just capping them and giving a good shake.

 

[Compound37]

Yup. If the naptha has been warmed, it'll dissolve that spice in there quickly, then there's gonna be maybe some impurities yellowish looking gunk if you tilt the jar to the side for a bit. That's what your trying to avoid getting in your pyrex to improve quality.

 

[DeMenTed]

Why don't you get the residue with warm naptha and collect the naptha and use that to do a re-x on your already dried spice? I don't see the point of emptying the naptha on your dry spice and just letting it evap.

 

[Compound37]

And maybe use a different pan if your dried spice is already good quality and ready to smoke. Or scrape it up, set aside, then pour the new stuff from the jars in.

 

[Dodongo]

Ok cool, I think that's what I'll do. I'm going to get all my dried spice together in a shot glass or maybe a small wide mouth jar if I can find one, and then rinse the other jars with warm naptha and add that to the shot glass, then re-x. Will it be a liquid layer at the bottom of it that I avoid pulling out, or just solids? I was just going to use the syringe I normally use for pulls to get the good stuff with re-x.

Thanks guys.

 

[Compound37]

I've only had to re-x once, and it was kind of inbetween liquid and solid, kinda goopy. For me I used a small mason jar, and the yellow goop kinda stuck to the bottom, some suggest like sucking out the goop first, then pouring and evapping the naptha. I've personally had good results just pulling the naptha out with turkey baster or syringe and leaving the goop at bottom.

 

[nigl]

Ok cool, I think that's what I'll do. I'm going to get all my dried spice together in a shot glass or maybe a small wide mouth jar if I can find one, and then rinse the other jars with warm naptha and add that to the shot glass, then re-x. Will it be a liquid layer at the bottom of it that I avoid pulling out, or just solids? I was just going to use the syringe I normally use for pulls to get the good stuff with re-x.

Thanks guys.

Keep in mind that what your trying to do is solving your spice in the LEAST necessary amount of solvent in order to lose very little product. So I would say add the warm naphtha slowly, keep the shot glass at nearly boiling temperature of the solvent and add until everything of your spice is solved (you will see the difference between impurities and spice, it's quite a difference in appearence). After you let the solvent cool you should remove your now clean spice and then if you want to make bigger crystals you should solve them again and let the naphtha slowly evaporate.

 

[Dodongo]

If I boil a pot of water and then take it off the stove, would that be about the right temperature for the shot glass? I don't have a suitable thermometer to use and would like to not have to make another trip to the thrift store.

 

[Compound37]

I usually get it to simmering, (just below boiling, or boil then let cool down) So in a nutshell, yes that should be about the right temperature.

 

[Compound37]

Just curious Dodongo, have you ever done spice before? And is this your first extraction? If so, Congrats on getting it done, and definitely let me know how things progress.

 

[Dodongo]

Before last night I had only done 5-MeO-DMT, and that was one time probably 5 years ago.

My girlfriend and I took a few good hits of it last night, not enough to breakthrough but it was definitely strong. At least for me, I generally can take a lot bigger pipe hits than she can with weed, which we were smoking it on. I took a big hit at one point and it hit me pretty hard after exhaling, kind of caught me off guard because I hadn't felt it that strong yet.

Both of us got some visuals, had big pupils, and felt pretty tripped out in general. We also found ourselves yawning a lot and getting pretty tired afterwards, is this common?

Excited to do a bigger dose and really experience what it has to offer. Once I re-x and get some nice solid crystals, I'll be able to weigh it and get a better judge of how much I'm doing.

 

[Compound37]

I've never done the 5-MeO, but I had heard about tripping frogs a LONG time ago as a kid "lickin toads" and had known they were the bufotenin toad or whatever and had looked into purchasing some. Just remembered that, damn. Guess DMT tried to find me far before I ever got acquainted with it.

Anyways, last night was the first go around with N,N. Glad it was pretty fun. Me and my two launch friends "jay" "kay" definitely say theres a couple of distinct "levels" to the experience. We call the initial transition blast-off, and on maybe ten fifteen mgs you get this along with the everything looks the same but different kind of trip. Then after that things get distinctly mushroomy, and we aptly named this the "shrooms" level. Throughout all of this a tripping feeling is pretty common(body load, the familiar tripping mentality feeling stuffs). Then after the shrooms level we called the next level of experience alice in wonderland which is like what the kaleidoscope colors are a part of, but the entirety of. Then theres the veil, breaking through it into "crazy mind f**k carnival". Regarding get caught off guard, keep expecting that with this tricky lil substance. Sometimes I'll be taking 60mg doses with little effect, thinking maybe I've built up a tolerance. So I'd be getting a 25mg hit ready to do with a first timer, saying "this probably won't do shit since I'm such an experienced user" then I'll get my ass handed to me on a complete breakthrough experience.

Tired afterwards is common for me and all of the couple dozen people I've dosed. No matter what time of day we do it, although its more extreme during the night time hours for obvious reasons. Also hungry. Usually I trip in the late evening or night, eat a snack, then go to bed. However during the trip for me its rare to yawn and I'm usually quite alert and wide awake, once its over the tired onsets.

When you planning on continuing your re-x process? Did you tonight/ last night if your reading this tomorrow, or couple days weeks in the future?
Were the crystals you and your gf smoked pretty pure already? Or did something with the results indicate to you that you should be purifying with the re-x?

Long post. Got kinda carried away. Sorry.

 

[Dodongo]

That sounds like a good description of the different plateaus you can to get with this stuff. I think that so far I've been at about the mushroom stage, definitely had a feeling reminiscent of mushrooms. Last night before going to bed I lay down and put on headphones and smoked a bit, very cool. Had my eyes closed for part of the trip and was seeing some amazing patterns and movements. I can't imagine what ayahuasca would be like, hours of that.

The yawning and tiredness wasn't all that bad, just a noticeable effect for both my girlfriend and I. Thought maybe it was since I had been drinking some beer both times, but she was yawning too so I wasn't sure.

I might be doing the re-x today, if I get down to the thrift store and find a shot glass. Also I need to get a container suitable for evaporating in, either a half pint wide mouth jar or lid for my pyrex dish, is what I'm thinking. I had an idea last night, if after my re-x I put the solvent into my dish, and then cover it with tin foil with a few holes poked in it, would that be good for an evap? It's a pyrex pie pan, maybe an inch deep.

 

[Dodongo]

Oh yeah and the crystals seem like they're ok, just some of the later batches came out a lot darker then others, and one pull I got a few drops of the mhrb mix in and it really changed color. Mostly doing it for peace of mind.

 

[Compound37]

Hey thanks, it took us a month of exploring to come up with those as our ranges. So appreciate the compliment for our hard work. I like to do it at night time too, usually thats just when I have free time and a desire to do so. I don't think I'd like things in my ears while trippping though, I usually do put on music now, although when I started I didn't like tripping with music, preferred straight silence.

When drinking and mixing spice, excercise a little bit of caution, especially when breaking through. My friend "A" used to come to my house pretty regularly on weekends after drinking to hit the spice. Then one time he locked himself in my downstairs bedroom and ended up having an extremely bad time. He blamed it on the alcohol. I have no idea of his experience beyond what I've already gone over. But he hasn't come back for any more spice since then.....so just wanted to let you know about it, and to keep it in mind.

I used to use saran wrap over my pyrex for evapping, and tinfoil should work great. You dont NEED a cover per se, I've gotten good results with no cover, very pure product, just that for large crystal formations, slow evap is necessary.

I used to end up with darker or colored crystals a lot, and for me my problem was trying to pour all the crystals with naptha through a coffee filter. I realize this probably isn't your issue, and I felt rather stupid after figuring out the naptha was to be decanted, while the crystals remained firmly attached to the pyrex. Also wicked easier to dry the crystals in a pyrex rather than a coffee filter.