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Re-X with IPA ?????

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Ice House

Ice House

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Sorry, I dont mean to ask a stupid question here, but, why isnt IPA used for re-crystalization? I'm thinking that its because it doesnt layer out the impurities like Naphtha or Hexane does. So when you Re-X with IPA you just get all of your goods back impurities and all, is that right?

Normally if I'm going to do an extraction I go Big and I go BLAB. Just the other day my friend's cat's cousin was doing a small extract so he decided to do a simple STB. Everything went as it should except at the end... *^#!.... so he was left with a good ammount of nice honey looking goop. I know, shoulda, woulda, coulda, didnt. So now its just a simple matter of re-x tek. Easy enough. Then I started wondering,hmmm. If I can dissolve spice into IPA for the purpose of making Changa, then why cant I dissolve this honey spice goo in IPA and slow evap it into nice crystals?

I'm pretty much a rock when it comes to Chem 101. It's monkey see monkey do for me. Any way, any answers out there? I want the honey colored goo into a crystal form. Will 99% IPA work? If not why?

Thank You,

Respectfully

IH
 
Im no chemist either but I think maybe I can answer your question. Maybe others with more knowledge will chime in.

When one recrystallizes with heptane/hexane/naphtha, it is quite 'selective' in the sense that it dissolves dmt well enough but not much impurities. It is very non-polar. So then the idea is to use just enough of that solvent to do that. IPA, on the other hand, is not very selective, its more polar, it dissolves well a lot impurities too, so you wont separate your dmt from the impurities that probably make it a goo. Also you cant freeze precipitate it with dmt freebase (though you can with dmt fumarate)

Also for some reason IPA doesnt seem to form nice crystals even with pure dmt, at least in my experience (maybe the fact that it traps water from the air as it evaporates somehow affects the crystallization, I dont know).

if you want the honey to become crystals, I would say either re-x the normal way with non-polar like hexane/heptane, or make it into a fumarate and do the water crystallization conversion to freebase.
 
in my gerbil's experience IPA is no good for re-xing fb spice.

I'm going to make some assumptions about your tek.

I'm guessing that your yellow goo is freebase that you got by evapping your solvent. If that is tru you can re-x by

heating either naphtha or bestine (heptane) to nearly boiling

dissolving your fb spice in the hot solvent (use as little as possible..you want it to be saturated)

some goo will not dissolve and will be at the bottom

decant off the solvent, leaving goo behind

allow the solvent to cool to room temp ... put it in the fridge. If using heptane, you are done. collect you r new xtals
if you used naphtha, put in the freezer and then collect your xtals

The goo left behind still has some awesomeness left inside.... you can hit it with hot solvent again and see whats in there or just save it for the next time you rextal and throw it there.
 
...... but after typing all that, I would suggest you vaporize some of that honey (still assuming it is freebase) and see if its not good enough all ready.

Phlux did a super selective benzine re-x and found the ultra pure spice to be heavier body load/less visual. Even better is the stuff he washed away was tested and reported to be super visual with low body load.

Just saying.... the gerbil has been getting down of the dirtier spice (although the gerbil does use FASW to get his spice out of the solvent in the first place so its a little cleaner to start I believe)
 
Madcapv2 said:
...... but after typing all that, I would suggest you vaporize some of that honey (still assuming it is freebase) and see if its not good enough all ready.

Phlux did a super selective benzine re-x and found the ultra pure spice to be heavier body load/less visual. Even better is the stuff he washed away was tested and reported to be super visual with low body load.

Just saying.... the gerbil has been getting down of the dirtier spice (although the gerbil does use FASW to get his spice out of the solvent in the first place so its a little cleaner to start I believe)
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off topic but, first things that come to mind is: self-suggestion (or reverse-suggestion or some kind of placebo-related effect)? I guess he didnt do a blind test to see that.. Not saying you should throw anything away, each one does what they want, but Im always very wary of when people say that spice of such looks gives such trip, and not consider the role of expectations in the effects and interpretation of them.
 
and for a conflicting anecdote: for my group and i the white/clear dmt is more visual/alien while the oxide/yellow/oil/orange/red is more body, destruction, tryptamine/native/indigenousness/indian feeling. darker too in both color and feel. ive vaped 75mg and had no colored vision but oppon closing my eyes spun into the roots of every plant on earth
 
hehe - "
off topic but, first things that come to mind is: self-suggestion (or reverse-suggestion or some kind of placebo-related effect)? I guess he didnt do a blind test to see that.. Not saying you should throw anything away, each one does what they want, but Im always very wary of when people say that spice of such looks gives such trip, and not consider the role of expectations in the effects and interpretation of them."

yeah end - i did actually do a double blind test - otherwize i wouldnt have posted that info.
im not a noob that suggests things to myself - most discoveries i dont even post here(had someone complaining at me in chat caus of this.)
 
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