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Crazyhorse

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Halooooo Nexus!

Well I've been picking all your brains on the sly for awhile now, thanks for all the great info you've shared! šŸ˜ I thought it was about time I quit lurking on the sidelines and made myself a proper member of the community.

My background in psychedelics isn't as deep as most of yours I'm sure. I did more than my share of LSD back in the mid to late 80's, probably for all the wrong reasons...then had a traumatic experience that began to resurface and pretty much ruin every trip I had after that. So sometime in the early 90's I gave up trying and just stuck with smoking way too much weed for the next few decades.

Then about a year ago a small dose of mushrooms presented itself to me. Strangely this was the first opportunity I'd ever had to try them, despite many years of being around the sort of folks you'd expect to have access to such things. I was hopeful that being based on a different chemical they wouldn't trigger the same old bad trip as LSD does, and indeed they didn't. It was probably only about a gram or two of an unknown strain, and I had an enjoyable if somewhat unremarkable time with them watching Alice in Wonderland (the new one) with the friend who provided them. Then that was that, for awhile.

A few months later around newyears I stumbled across about 1/8 oz of penis envy. I didn't realize how much stronger they would be than what I'd had before, and had a pretty intense experience with them alone at my house on NYE. I wouldn't call it a bad trip exactly, and it wasn't the same old LSD flashback thank god. But it freaked me out a bit and took me several months to really process what had happened. But long story short, the experience basically ended a very long term love affair I'd had with cannabis by showing me all the negative effects it was having on me and my life. I didn't stop smoking all at once, but cut back to evenings only for awhile, then more recently dropped that too. So in a nutshell that's how I found out what a powerful teacher shrooms can be.

I'd been interested in Ayahuasca and DMT for a very long time, but never found a source for it. So at some point around the same time as that newyears trip, I decided to take it into my own hands and ordered myself some MHRB, Caapi and Viridis. I sat on that stuff for quite awhile without doing anything with it, just slowly started gathering materials and info on extraction methods and such. About 3 or 4 months ago I also got some spores and did a small SGFC mushroom grow to supply myself with a stash of the funny fungi.

Then about 2 months ago I went ahead with my first DMT extraction, using the Q21Q21 tek from this site (thanks for that!). It didn't go perfectly, according to the tek I should have got nothing but white elf spice from it, but in fact I ended up with about a gram of that, a gram or so of orange/brown crystally stuff (oxides?) and maybe 1/2 gram of resiny tar gunk (fats?). So I guess I goofed up somewhere but at least it gave me something to experiment with!

So over the summer I've been having semi-weekly adventures with a combination of low doses of mushrooms and attempts to "break through" with the DMT using various smoking devices and methods. Although I've gotten some pretty intense effects from it, so far I haven't quite broken through by following all the usual advice, and my supply of the spice is running low so I'm deterimed to make it work soon one way or another.

As I write this I'm boiling the Caapi I got at the beginning of the year down into tea, with the intention of using part of it this weekend in combination with my next DMT smoking session, to see if that might help. I haven't yet been able to find any info on using oral MAOI along with smoked DMT, but my reasoning is that if the MAOI in Changa helps potentiate smoked DMT, then an oral dose of it prior to vaporizing should too. If there's a problem with this idea that I'm not aware of I trust you'll let me know.

So I guess that's pretty much where I'm at currently. If I'm finally able to get my first breakthrough experience this weekend, and assuming it's as positive as my prior experiments with DMT have been, then I'll probably brew up my viridis leaves soon and start planning for my first Ayahuasca session. I'm sure I'll be relying heavily on your collective wisdom for that so thanks in advance!
 
Crazyhorde wrote:

I haven't yet been able to find any info on using oral MAOI along with smoked DMT, but my reasoning is that if the MAOI in Changa helps potentiate smoked DMT, then an oral dose of it prior to smoking should too. If there's a problem with this idea that I'm not aware of I trust you'll let me know.

Good name first of all.....second of all oral caapi + vaporized DMT is one of my favorite things of all time....For me the visuals are top notch....and the vibe is warm and nurturing to the max....I perfer this method to changa..

I personally mix a tiny bit of rue or pure harmine to the mix to boost the power but if you drink lots of caapi this might not be needed.....

the experience is like a mini-huasca in my opinion....I think there's a poibility it may make you purge although I haven't had thi happen to me yet...
 
Eliyahu said:
I personally mix a tiny bit of rue or pure harmine to the mix to boost the power but if you drink lots of caapi this might not be needed.....

the experience is like a mini-huasca in my opinion....I think there's a poibility it may make you purge although I haven't had thi happen to me yet...


That's all great to know, thanks very much for the input! :thumb_up: Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, as sort of an introduction to that realm before diving headfirst into the full-on Aya experience.

But this raises a couple of questions for me...

First, since I don't have any rue or harmala extract, what would you call "lots" of Caapi? I only bought 100g and am brewing it all up now... I want to save as much as possible to use with the Viridis later on so I was thinking I'd drink maybe 1/4 of it this time? Should I go with more to be sure it's effective?

Also, I've read a little bit about using gelatin to trap some of the tannins and avoid at least some of the purge... would that be a good strategy to try here? I've got a really strong stomach so I'm not too worried about it, but if I could be fairly sure of just staying in bed for the whole ordeal instead of having to dash to the bathroom that would be nice.
 
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