Recalling experiences

[mdtraveler]

I've thoroughly enjoyed all the amazing experiences over the last few months. The only problem is, I'm only able to recall very little detail about them, if anything at all. Is there anything I can do to help improve my recall? At some point during the comedown, I seem to lose most of the details - especially the details of the interactions I've had with other beings.
Just last night I encountered at least one entity, and was taken to what appeared to be some kind of aircraft hangar or docking station of some sort where there were MANY beings running about doing things to and with the strange looking aircraft. I have vague memories of what the station and aircraft looked like, but that's about it. I cannot remember what the entities looked like, how I got there, what they may have said or what it was that they may have been trying to show me.
Anyone have any suggestions?

 

[concombres]

I've thoroughly enjoyed all the amazing experiences over the last few months. The only problem is, I'm only able to recall very little detail about them, if anything at all. Is there anything I can do to help improve my recall? At some point during the comedown, I seem to lose most of the details - especially the details of the interactions I've had with other beings.
Just last night I encountered at least one entity, and was taken to what appeared to be some kind of aircraft hangar or docking station of some sort where there were MANY beings running about doing things to and with the strange looking aircraft. I have vague memories of what the station and aircraft looked like, but that's about it. I cannot remember what the entities looked like, how I got there, what they may have said or what it was that they may have been trying to show me.
Anyone have any suggestions?

I have found that my memory improved over time to some degree.Not in the sense of time helped me remember more. Just that it seemed to become easier to recall more of my trips as I had more experiences. The other thing that helps is writing down what you can while the experience is still fresh in your mind.
ALOT of the stuff just cannot be put into words though & what can is often very hard to piece together in a way that others can understand & relate to. No matter how hard I try every description I can give seems either not quite right or very vague & general.

 

[mdtraveler]

I have found that my memory improved over time to some degree.Not in the sense of time helped me remember more. Just that it seemed to become easier to recall more of my trips as I had more experiences. The other thing that helps is writing down what you can while the experience is still fresh in your mind.
ALOT of the stuff just cannot be put into words though & what can is often very hard to piece together in a way that others can understand & relate to. No matter how hard I try every description I can give seems either not quite right or very vague & general.

I have noticed that generally, I can remember a little bit more now than I could before. So, hopefully that trend will continue, like you said. But you are 100% right about not being able to effectively describe the experiences. That's one reason that I haven't tried journaling the experiences. It would all just sound like a bunch of gobledy gook later when I read it. That, and things like pens and paper are still morphing into other stuff, or blinking in and out of existence entirely during the time when I can remember the most. That makes it kind of hard to write.

 

[concombres]

I have found that my memory improved over time to some degree.Not in the sense of time helped me remember more. Just that it seemed to become easier to recall more of my trips as I had more experiences. The other thing that helps is writing down what you can while the experience is still fresh in your mind.
ALOT of the stuff just cannot be put into words though & what can is often very hard to piece together in a way that others can understand & relate to. No matter how hard I try every description I can give seems either not quite right or very vague & general.

I have noticed that generally, I can remember a little bit more now than I could before. So, hopefully that trend will continue, like you said. But you are 100% right about not being able to effectively describe the experiences. That's one reason that I haven't tried journaling the experiences. It would all just sound like a bunch of gobledy gook later when I read it. That, and things like pens and paper are still morphing into other stuff, or blinking in and out of existence entirely during the time when I can remember the most. That makes it kind of hard to write.

Have you tried oral dosing with harmalas?
I have an easier time recalling pharma and/or brew sessions that vaped DMT.
I think it has to do with the fact the vaped experiences are over so quick & so much occurs all at once it can be hard to remember.

 

[mdtraveler]

Have you tried oral dosing with harmalas?
I have an easier time recalling pharma and/or brew sessions that vaped DMT.
I think it has to do with the fact the vaped experiences are over so quick & so much occurs all at once it can be hard to remember.

No, I haven't tried that yet. My situation precludes any long drawn out trips (3-4 hours) like one would get with oral dosing. Can't have bong smoke in the house either, and that is the only safe place for me to use DMT so changa is pretty much out as well. So I guess oral maoi with vaped spice would be the next logical step for me. From what I understand, maoi with vaped dmt usually results in a trip of around an hour. That I could do.

 

[Glossolalia]

I get the impression you've come back with some very large feelings but no memory to associate with them. Don't view it as a bad thing. I think that memory is overrated

What I mean is, I have a theory that the memory issue is not what it appears on the surface. It's not that we have experiences that we cannot recall, it's that we have experiences that cannot be "downloaded" into our normal waking consciousness.

Our egos have a desire to put the DMT experience into a normal storyline, where "first I saw this, then I thought about that, then I heard this, then I felt that." But sights, sounds, thoughts, these are the stuff that makes up memory. DMT affects them so strongly that our brain is not capable of being a tape-recorder for what's happening.

When I was new to DMT the inability to express the ineffable would disturb me on some level. I felt like I should be "taking notes" or something, but I couldn't. When I took out my figurative notepad, the spites would mock me for being so silly, and they would somewhat chastise me in a "Hey, pay attention!" type manner.

Now I've learned to just accept it. If it could be put into words, it wouldn't be DMT.

 

[Leithen]

Thanks for sharing! I can definitely relate to this. There is have beens some great points made above.

One other thing to consider is any other substances you may be taking, mostly cannabis. I would frequently smoke some before or after a trip and it drastically effected my memory even if I had smoke hours before. Although it may seem somewhat obvious I think a lot of people overlook it, especially those who smoke marijuana habitually.

I have since decided to take week or two long breaks from smoking before trips. Of course I occasionally don't worry about it, but there is no doubt a very noticeable difference in my memory retention between these.

 

[mdtraveler]

I get the impression you've come back with some very large feelings but no memory to associate with them. Don't view it as a bad thing. I think that memory is overrated

What I mean is, I have a theory that the memory issue is not what it appears on the surface. It's not that we have experiences that we cannot recall, it's that we have experiences that cannot be "downloaded" into our normal waking consciousness.

Our egos have a desire to put the DMT experience into a normal storyline, where "first I saw this, then I thought about that, then I heard this, then I felt that." But sights, sounds, thoughts, these are the stuff that makes up memory. DMT affects them so strongly that our brain is not capable of being a tape-recorder for what's happening.

When I was new to DMT the inability to express the ineffable would disturb me on some level. I felt like I should be "taking notes" or something, but I couldn't. When I took out my figurative notepad, the spites would mock me for being so silly, and they would somewhat chastise me in a "Hey, pay attention!" type manner.

Now I've learned to just accept it. If it could be put into words, it wouldn't be DMT.

Thanks for the insight.
Your probably correct in your analysis, as far as trying to reconcile feelings with memories etc. There's no doubt that I always have some sort of feeling after these experiences. The trouble is that I have issues with emotions in general that I'm sure add to the problem. Now, I'm not an axe weilding, cult leader sociopath, but there are neurologic/psychological problems that prevent me from feeling emotions like normal people. I've never experienced any life altering traumatic event that would alter my psyche in this way, so I'm guessing that it's "just the way I'm wired". This has been the case since the age of " self awareness" so to speak, and there's not much I can do about it, so I've just learned to work around it when I need to.
I was hoping that the the whole DMT experience may help. I guess that still remains to be seen.

@Leithen: I actually don't use cannabis or any other similar substances. But, I can see how it might affect memory/recall.