Reletive solubilty question: can DMT be trapped in re-X bottom layer?

[potato]

My question: is it possible that DMT is more soluble in root bark fats than in naphtha?

I ask this because it appears that DMT remains in the sticky, brown bottom layer of the recrystallization no matter how much naphtha, heat, and mixing is used. The bottom layer is composed of alkaloids dissolved in other plant lipids. These lipids are very weakly soluble in naphtha and appear virtually immiscible at the temperatures used. If DMT is more soluble in these lipids than in naphtha, it seems likely that during a re-x, a significant amount of DMT will remain dissolved in the bottom plant fat layer.

Additionally, could the presence of in the plant fat layer amplify or be fully responsible for this effect?

I'm just trying to decide what to do with a good amount of re-x bottom layer sludge that still contains lots of DMT. Should I do a mini A/B or just recrystallize with a large volume of naphtha? Should I do some kind of wash at some point?

 

[endlessness]

Short answer: yes,some dmt is trapped in the bottom re-x layer


Longer: Burnt has gc-ms tested the goo left over from one re-x and it was still majorly composed of dmt. That being said, in terms of comparative solubility, it seems still warm naphtha dissolves most dmt so if you do 3x successive pulls most of your dmt should be out.

As an example, say you have 1g impure dmt, you use 30ml warm naphha to re-x, and from that one pull u get 600mg white dmt, and 400mg goo. Then u do another 15ml pull and get 150mg off-white dmt. Then u do another pull and get 50mg yellowish dmt.. so now u have still 200mg goo which might have still 30mg dmt in it.. is it worth to re-a/b it for that much dmt?

 

[AcidShard]

Hi potato,
One thing that I do sometimes is keep all your re-x sludge and jars, utensils, filters, etc that still have remnants of DMT on them, and do a vinegar water wash on them, then mini A/B when I'm running low on spice.

Or, I just keep the acidic water on hand and add it to my next extraction.
I tend to swap out and clean my copper mesh and pipe often to keep dosing accurate, and there is usually a lot more "leftovers" than I think there is.

I do about 3 small naphtha pulls when doing a re-x as well.
Even if the last bit is a lower quality with more fats, it's still good for enhanced leaf.
May as well get everything I can out of my precious bark.

Take care

 

[endlessness]

Good points by AcidShard

Gathering a vinegar wash from extraction and smoking utensils and last bits of extraction can in the end be a significant amount to retrieve and indeed make a re-a/b worth it

 

[potato]

Thanks to both of you for the advice! Sounds like more pulls is the best move at this point.

 

[Jees]

You can also freeze the re-x recipient with the bottom layer present.

After the required freezing time (1 to 2 days at -28degC), poor off the cold naphtha and let recipient dry/evap fully. Scrape of all white in the top section and some white that sits on top of the yellow bottom layer. Keep the white aside as... the white stuff.

Now you have still a bone hard bottom layer left that is yellow, even when it was showing oily during the re-X it is now a hard chunk. Make it loose of the bottom and keep it as your ultra active yellow product for pharma's. In weight it's as potent as the white.

To be sure that the bottom layer has no traces of lye, do a carbonate wash on your spice laden non-polar before the very first freezing.

Blessed be.