[Report]Well this is definitely something that shouldn't be considered lightly

[revalin]

Well, psychedelics aren't naive things and a good slap in the face was needed to understand that.

I finished extraction of some spice and was extremely eager to try it. Even though I still have cold from last week, coughed a lot, was tired, and generally not in the best mood, curiosity got the best of me.

Now this definitely went in different way than I expected, i put around 0.3 and took only one, but really deep hit from VG and as I was exhaling, I occupied my mind to not cough from the cold that i have. Then I started worrying if my cold and not ideal physical state will interfere with the trip. I was still exhaling, maybe 2 seconds have passed.
I noticed that controling my arm is odd, it's really light and everything is lagging. Did I move my arm at all. Am I laying down. maybe 2 seconds have passed since I exhaled.
What is happening with my vision, what the hell is happening in front of my eyes, what is happening with my senses. I don't know how to describe what was happening, all my senses were blended and I couldn't differ one from another. I couldn't think. I was aware that I couldn't think, but I couldn't think about it. I struggled to think, to talk, but it wasn't happening.

I forgot to breathe. Deep inhale. I tried to remember what's happening, and somehow I forced thought "it's only drug" to my mind. It quickly went away, and I still couldn't use my mind, I just had awareness that was paranoid and struggling to understand will this go away. Did I do everything as i should, have I accidentally left some naptha in the spice. Will this inability to think stay here forever? I'm still struggling to think. I again somehow forced "it's just a drug" thought, remembered to breath again, and tried to relax into it.

All that time, insane distortions of senses and space were happening, eyes opened all the time, unable to comprehend anything. Definitely felt like more than 4 dimensions were present.

I tried to relax, and focus on my breathing. The sound of my breath occupied the room, and I just
followed it. Vision started to return back to normal, but was still heavily distorted.
Breathing soothed me, and after some time I noticed that things got calmer. Is it over? I guess it is, but it doesn't feel like it. My mind is back, but I still notice that full function isn't restored yet. As if i cant form a memory in my head.
I was still bit paranoid, was this a breakthrough? I haven't thought that this insanity would happen, it was just 0.3 and I took only one hit. I still thought that I had vaped some naptha and that it screwed my brain up because I still couldn't feel that all of my functions were back.
Now it definitely was over, brain function were returning back to normal.
Alright, it's fine, it's over.

alright, it's over, and it's the last time you should approach those things so naively.
It wasn't really a bad trip, it definitely wasn't good, it was odd really. I was struggling and kinda freaking out, and it definitely didn't want me to do that.

It was odd experience, I will definitely wait a bit longer till I'm more ready for this.


So much dmt left from the extraction though, will see what to do with it.

 

[revalin]

Also, is this considered breakthrough? Reality was completely swapped with something so alien that i couldn't comprehend at the time. And is it normal to not (or barely) be able to think at all during the trip?

 

[Felnik]

Bad idea to go when your sick ,
I can tell you from experience that it never goes well , ever.
Always better to wait til your healthy . ive pushed it a few times and always
regretted it in the past. I would give it another chance when your feeling batter.
Always remember Set an setting are of the utmost importance with no exceptions in my book.

 

[hadoq]

Hi, was it a first experience with DMT? with psychedelics? I can definitely relate on so many levels, my own experiences were quite similar although much less "traumatic".

Being a first time psychs user, I decided to take the slow route and so far I did experience similar things as you did. So I would be tempted to say it may not have been a breakthrough.

I could notice a few things similar to me

- smoking when mildly sick
I did it as well, but it did not really interfere with my experience

- "going in" with a worry
This has revealed to be a powerful mean to induce bad sensations
Last time it happened, I had a weird taste when inhaling and I thought "maybe I didn't extract it right and some black liquid went with it without me noticing". Instantly, things became uncomfortable.
So I told to myself that the worry was causing it and since I've inhaled already, I might as well forget about the worrying and get the most of the experience anyway, fortunately it was a small dose.

- being naive
I take it you did load 30mg (and not 0.3g wich would be 300mg, therefore a HUGE dose)
that one's on you. I remember my first time going in, minuscule dose, that feeling of "where my body's going?" took me by surprise and I started to panic a little bit, fortunately it was a small dose, but afterwards, I thought "thank god I didn't try a larger dose for the first time"
Now I welcome the feeling, I still respect it a lot, but I welcome it because I know it's a good thing.



The main "mistake" was to allow yourself to worry *after* you took your hit. the molecule was already working its magic and you interfered with negative thoughts, kind of "steering it" towards something negative. I have very little experience, but as far as I know. I believe it's best to work in an objective/neutral state of mind, allowing the magic to steer itself (and your thoughts). A small negativity, fear is to be expected. I use to *force* a smile, focus on breathing to ease things out (but I noticed that focusing on breathing can also steer me away from the experience, especially if I take deep breaths)

Once you hit your vape, do NOT allow yourself any worry (legitimate or not) and accept whatever's being thrown at you. Realize that once you hit it, it's just too late to worry about anything, it's like the rollercoaster ride has stared, you can't go back or out until it's finished.

if it's your first psychedelic, go back a few mg, work your way up from 10, 15, 20 and so on. I had the most beautiful experience vaping 20mg outside in an open field just before sunset, this is something you definitely want to try and it's a very different experience than vaping inside your room/appartment (you can read my report in the experience reports forum)

I think you were naive going in, but it seems you did alrigh and understood the lesson. I never broke through myself, but reading your report, I don't believe you did as there seemed to be various parameters that were holding you back. And with all of that being over so quickly. Now I don't know, maybe you did, but I have the sense that if one breaks through, one would definitely know. I've had the unrecognizable world around me also (especially when I was outside), but I did not have the feeling I've broken through.

As said above, set and setting
to be honest, I often does it out of curiosity, because I want to experiment with it and get to the breakthrough point. But all the times, I always try to decide beforehand what I want to get out of the experience. Seeing beautiful things, feeling special connections, face my fears etc... I try not to go in without a goal.

And the setting, which to me relates more to the ability to be left alone for 5/10 minutes rather than my environment (espcially inside, I did outside once and will do it more, but I will select the places properly)


Work your way back up, don't take any experience lightly and be humble. If there's a lesson in there, it may be to not allow yourself to think negatively, not only before a psych experience, but in general. once you've commited, stay commited and don't look back. You'll get the most of it that way.

Much love and be safe

 

[3rdI]

hello revalin,

loading up 300mg on your first attempt at dissolving reality probably wasnt the best idea.

being ill and dissolving reality probably wasnt a good idea.

taking your time, reading, using reasonable dosages probably a good idea.

If you want to dive back into the madness i would start from a low dosage, lets say 10mg, and then move your way up from there.

good luck with your future dabblings

 

[revalin]

@3rdI sorry it was a typo, it was 0.03, but as you and others have said, being ill wasn't the best state to go in with.

@hadoq: Yes, that "did some of the black stuff pass in through without my notice" feeling definitely existed, I think that was the major cause of my discomfort during the whole trip.
For being naive it wasn't so much related do dosage, but to thoughts that it will be similar to shroom/lsd trip and overall not knowing what to expect, especially that feeling that you cannot form a thought which scared the hell out of me (later I found out that others have experienced that and that its normal).
Thanks for the long reply and all the tips, it means a lot to hear that others had similar experiences, definitely brings good amount of relief to the situation. Also, will definitely take the advice to just go into it no matter what happens, I think that it will be crucial for a good trip (along with proper physical condition).

Again, thank you all for replying