whole cactus cut into thin chunks (green and white used, the middle spine core was circle-cut out), simmered for over 10 hours with a lemon squeezed in water.

the pot was frozen after half of the cooking(small pot, fits in freezer easy), and then later put back on the stove with the frozen water and cactus inside.

then filtered, reduced.

the cacti, I heard, wasn't bitter at all after this.

And, like I said, my friend unveiled an extraordinary yield from such simplicity.

sorry for getting heated...I think my only pet peeve is when I am telling the truth and someone doesn't believe me.

Oh well, numerous people are living in bliss, and the minimalism spreads...

love you guys

let us know how your relationship with this ally develops...I find it most fascinating