AL, respectfully I would submit that we may be "talking past" each other. Respective ages might be a factor.

Our(human) access to reality/Reality is always provisional. Complementary epistemological systems of knowledge(scientific) and gnosis(experiential) are harnessed to glean a sense of our reality/Reality.

Fascinatingly, entheogens(a sacred gift?) allow average folks to participate in deeply gnostic experiencing that when shared, demonstrate an amazing degree of cross personal/temporal/cultural/religious mutuality.

Additionally, we now appreciate the quantum nature of the matter/energy realm(radically non-reductionistic) forcing us to merge knowledge and gnowledge in an attempt to gain Knowledge.

There exists a fundamental uncertainty, deeply embedded in the nature/Nature of "It". A sensibility that,the subject/object, us/God duality is a persistent delusion, often arises.

Peace