Ridiculously Large Yield???

[shmoof]

Thanks for all the help on SWIMs previous thread, Nomans tek..........extremely low yield - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus , SWIM did another run with a little help from everyones advice.

Using 100g of MHRB, SWIM did 3 regular naptha pulls and 1 heated pull, and let evap to about 95%. SWIM then freeze precipitated and then took out after 24 hrs to allow tray to finish evaporation. Now, SWIM has a "problem" , which is un-doubtedly the complete opposite of SWIM's last problem, a very low yield.

SWIM weighed out his product and it came out to a whopping 4g of extract from 100g MHRB. Now, obviously this is not scientifically possible. SWIM wonders, what could be making up this extra weight? Does this just mean SWIM has a great deal of Lye in his final product, or is it possibly plant fats? SWIM used a great deal of care in keeping out any Basified solution during natha pulls. Any ideas??? :idea:

Thanks, shmoof

 

[turtleman29]

Was the naptha used already saturated with DMT from previous extractions?
and what exactly does your final product look like?
also is it possible you misweighed it i.e. your scale needs recalibration or you accidentally wieghed the piece of paper/vial that spice was in?

If you did get 4g of smokable spice I wanna know where that bark came from......ha


peace and love

 

[shmoof]

No, it was weighed correctly and the scale is properly callibrated......... SWIM's material is yellow/orange and has a crystalline/shard-like composition. Smell is the consistency of mothballs or of a floral scent. Fresh batch of naptha was used for this particular extraction.

 

[ismokecrystals]

got a pic?

 

[Jorkest]

haha yeah...were did SWIM get that bark!?

 

[shmoof]

100 herb galaxy........

 

[turtleman29]

So i did a quick search and there is another thread about large mhrb yeilds here

but great job if you want to purify it definitely recrystalize all the yellow should condense together and the crystals should be more pure.

peace and love

 

[DMTripper]

That's 4% yield!!

That's like far the biggest yield I've ever heard about. Until now I'd only heard about little over 1%. This is weird. You lucky bastard

 

[acolon_5]

4% is really over what is possible with Mimosa.

I'm guessing you've got some impurities that are weighing your spice down quite a bit.

The floral scent again...I once rextalized some bad spice over and over and over and I ended up with floral scented xtals that did almost nothing, but they were pretty, large, completely clear, and looked alot like spice. I've also heard people who get a less mothball smelling spice and more of a jasmine, or light floral scent.

I'm not saying that's what is happening to your batch, just noticed some similarities to my strange batch of spice (over a year ago, from 100herb galaxy).

 

[shmoof]

It is quite potent....... Upon some deep thought, SWIM remembered that he did put a batch of naptha from a previous extract in the tray before his next batch. Still that was only a 200g MHRB extraction that SWIM already got some yield from..... this is still around a2 - 2.5% yield at least.

What could SWIM's impurities possibly be?

 

[turtleman29]

Turtle did some research in the threads and it seems to me that there are a few different possibilities which might have increased the weight of your final product.

Lye is one impurity people talk about occuring but it doesn't seem to be a very large concern and you should be able to tell perhaps by the smell and or taste of the spice.

The other which is apparently NMT which I was unaware of, Benzine posts it here

This is the quote.

i know I've said it before somewhere, but I really think STB pulls out more than just dmt; it most likely pulls NMT as well. melting point tests would help confirm this (a very wide range would indicate other compounds present)

so these people claiming 1%+ yields...it just seems a bit misleading to think that it's pure dmt.

but as for obsessing over getting white crystals...that's just an obsession of the art of recrystallization.

I suppose that the last thing which I thought initially would be other components of the mimosa such as proteins or lipids but with my limited knowledge of the chemistry of Mimosa Hostilis Root bark I do not know.

turtle ordered from 100herb recently and got relatively standard weight from it, seemed like run of the mill mhrb perhaps he'll order from them again...


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