just got a big bag o' rue seeds from BBB.....looking for a couple ideas from my experienced brothers/sisters. 69ron? acolon? what SWIM would like to know is:
1. can they be taken on their own (tea? how much?) and what's that like?
2. SWIM only has freebase DMT right now...what kind of combo/timeline/experience can SWIM try here?
3. also heard that they can be smoked?
MANY thanks for any and all teachings with this medicine that is new to SWIM.
love and gratitude!
Hey Man,
I wouldn't try eating the straight seeds, they have a very hard outer coat & that probably wouldn't digest very quickly or nicely!
If you extract the pure Harmala Alkaloids as crystals (
or at least a clean extract), you can smoke them like DMT crystals but I've not done this myself, so I don't have anything to really say about it either way.
However, making a tea out of your S.Rue seeds will be well worth the minimal effort it will take to make the tea!!
Here is the simple recipe I use to make
enough for 10-to-12 doses (just divide the numbers by 10 to get the amounts for just 1 dose):
Preparation:
1. Grind 30-to-40 grams of Syrian Rues seeds to a powder.
(
a coffee grinder can be used for this)
(
but I just put the seeds within 3 plastic baggies & pound them to a rough powder with a hammer)
2. Add 1 lemon ball of lemon juice to an iron or stainless steel pot.
3. Sprinkle the product from step 1 onto the lemon juice.
4. Add 750ml (
1 tall, green, glass bottle) of "San Pellegrino sparkling mineral water". (keep the bottle & lid!)
5. Bring to a boil while stirring, leaving cover on when not stirring.
6. Turn the heat off after reaching a boil, let cool down a bit. (
does not need to cool completely)
7. Repeat steps 5 and 6 to taste, letting the liquid cool down a bit in between boils. You may need to add more of the water (
or some distilled water) to it along the way to keep the seed powder suspended in the liquid throughout the process.
(it usually takes me about 2 hours for about 8 cycles)
8. Filter the liquid at least once, 2 or 3 times is better (just keep the liquid relatively warm while filtering). You should end up with a see-through, golden liquid.
(A medium-to-large funnel &
folded coffee filter can be used as a pretty good filter system, if you don't have a real Buchner filter setup, which works excellent!)
(Or
tightly stuffing a few damp cotton balls into the neck of a medium-to-large funnel, makes a
really good filter as well, albeit much slower)
9. Boil the now combined & filtered Rue tea down to an amount you can drink
reasonably, making sure to keep stirring as you do this, or you may burn whats on the bottom. I try to reduce the size of the liquid to where a single dose is like 40-to-50ml so I don't have to drink to much of it.
10. Pour the Rue tea back into the Pellegrino bottle for storage in the fridge or freezer.
Make sure to take the bottle out of the fridge & allow it to naturally warm to room temp.
Shaking well a number of times while it warms up a little,
before opening & using.
It will separate when it sits & gets cold in the fridge so remember to
Shake Well!!
This Will Make 10-to-12 doses!!
Employment:
I use it by pouring 1/10th of the S.Rue tea into a glass & adding equal parts fruit punch & 7up.
Then I'll drink this mixture 30-to-45 minutes before smoking like .020-to-.050mg of DMT.
It usually takes around 1/2 of the normal amount of DMT to reach a breakthrough!! I usually load up enough spice so that I can take a couple more tokes when I start to fade back into the physical, if I want to.
The effects last for 45 minutes to an hour.
The peak can last up to 15 minutes (
rather than 2-to-5 min without MAOI), then the comedown is much, much slower lasting up to an hour or more!
The experience is also changed a bit, seeming more guided or less alone, something like that.?.?
I have heard distinct voices coming from the room I'm in (
I was alone in the house), Talking to me, guiding me to "lay back down & relax" etc...
Also, there is this singing That I hear when I do this. There is a chime like backing & this low "
lub-dub-dib-dub-blub-nub-dub-lub-lub" thing that rises & falls in pitch as it also speeds up & slows down, The pitch & speed are independent of each other. So its
not like the pitch rises as the singing speeds up (
like the "vari-speed" control on a pro-tape rec or DAW). Instead, both effects are totally random & unconnected.
The "chimes" & the voices run together in speed & pitch though, its
beautiful, hypnotizing & familiar to me!
And they seem to come from outside my head, from somewhere unseen, in the room with me.
Very
weird, although it has never startled me & I've never been afraid of it when it happens, it feels so loving & seems perfectly normal at the time.
If this happened to me while just laying on my bed trying to get to sleep, I think it would freak me the fuck out pretty fast!!
Any "real-world" stimulus will just keep you attached to the physical world, so I highly recommend doing this with your eyes closed (
at least for the peak) in a
quiet, dark, or dimly lit room, with
no music.
(
A single candle is nice for the light, as it moves on its own & can seem alive under the right circumstances)
Let the DMT & Rue help you get back into your mind!!
I have a jar of B.Cappi tea sitting in my fridge, waiting for the right time to take it with some smoked DMT.
Have not done this with Cappi tea yet, only S.Rue. I have taken Ayahuasca a few times & I'm looking forward to the
warm blanket, sedative-like effect of the Cappi with the DMT.
S.Rue tends to make me feel a bit edgy in contrast.
Cheers...
WS
March 06, 2009 7:04:04 PM: Edited in a bit more detailed info up there...
