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Are you sure? I always oven dry my FB at 200°C, and there still nothing happens at all. I would have thought that usually the HCl needs even a higher temp.E.g. I tried the Fritzsche method of dehydration by using about 100-150°C (hot air gun) on my HCl Harmalas, and what happened was that they turned brown and got melty/clumpy/crystally. But afterwards they dissolved again the same in water as before, so it seems they stayed in salt form.Regarding ingestion form. I usually do take the Harmalas orally and then vape the spice after about an hour. This makes the trip last for me about 3-4h whereas the peak is 20mins...(compared to about 5mins when vaped without Harmalas)I like it more that way, because the Harmalas make you calm and because of the much longer downtimes making integration possible. Whereas I go down so quickly without them that I can hardly get anything valuable out of the experience. Basically the remaining time after the peak is for me very much like a shroom trip.Edit:I should retry that experiment under more proper temp conditions. Maybe the HCl really melted at my experiment? That would mean HCl needs much lower temps than FB.Edit2:Hmm, from this source (HARMINE HYDROCHLORIDE CAS#: 343-27-1) Harmine HCL has a MP of 265-270°C (the wiki says 321°C), and Harmaline HCl 232-240 °C (6027-98-1 CAS MSDS (HARMALINE HYDROCHLORIDE DIHYDRATE) Melting Point Boiling Point Density CAS Chemical Properties).So they all seem much higher than the indicated 120C.
Are you sure? I always oven dry my FB at 200°C, and there still nothing happens at all. I would have thought that usually the HCl needs even a higher temp.
E.g. I tried the Fritzsche method of dehydration by using about 100-150°C (hot air gun) on my HCl Harmalas, and what happened was that they turned brown and got melty/clumpy/crystally. But afterwards they dissolved again the same in water as before, so it seems they stayed in salt form.
Regarding ingestion form. I usually do take the Harmalas orally and then vape the spice after about an hour. This makes the trip last for me about 3-4h whereas the peak is 20mins...(compared to about 5mins when vaped without Harmalas)
I like it more that way, because the Harmalas make you calm and because of the much longer downtimes making integration possible. Whereas I go down so quickly without them that I can hardly get anything valuable out of the experience. Basically the remaining time after the peak is for me very much like a shroom trip.
Edit:
I should retry that experiment under more proper temp conditions. Maybe the HCl really melted at my experiment? That would mean HCl needs much lower temps than FB.
Edit2:
Hmm, from this source (HARMINE HYDROCHLORIDE CAS#: 343-27-1) Harmine HCL has a MP of 265-270°C (the wiki says 321°C), and Harmaline HCl 232-240 °C (6027-98-1 CAS MSDS (HARMALINE HYDROCHLORIDE DIHYDRATE) Melting Point Boiling Point Density CAS Chemical Properties).
So they all seem much higher than the indicated 120C.