Sage cultivators, need some advice

[kerelsk]

Some of my sage plants aren't looking too hot. My cuttings seem quite healthy, green, lush, right after they're rooted, but soon turn an unhealthy yellow- interveinal chlorosis. Well, I think that means Iron deficiency, since I water them with manure tea and I suspect it has excess nitrogen. The soil is part compost and part commercial potting mix for perennials that drains really well and has some mulch chunks.

I'm looking for organic nutes I might find around a rural area, green manures/teas from iron heavy plants if there are some.
Last case scenario I can get something from a store perhaps synthetic/extracted.

Anybody know what's wrong with them?

Bonus image: a healthy Acacia confusa seedling and Desmanthus leptolobus seedling. Got some bigger leptos in the ground, hoping to do some experimentation later this season

 

[kerelsk]

I don't have an aeration stone, and I really want to feed these guys soon.
I'm looking at some sites that say you can just dilute & use molasses as-is, so I think I'll give that a try.

Nettles and dandelion I have, so I think I'll mix up a tea and try that too. I had nettles on my mind before, it seems loaded with vitamins and minerals. The young spring shoots are especially packed with nutrients. And dandelion, digging deep into the soil with its taproot makes perfect sense. I bet burdock has a ton of minerals.

I guess the nutrients won't be too available because the raw materials haven't been broken down by bacteria ahead of time, but the soil likely does have quite a bit living in it from previous fermented compost tea treatment.

My mother plant was having the same problem, interveinal chlorosis, but after some manure tea treatments she's looking better but not as healthy as possible. Just a few days ago I saw a few tiny mushrooms in her pot, so I'm sure some symbiotes are hanging in there with her.

Thanks werd, I'll be researching the advice

 

[Father Time]

Just a bit of nutrients and you should be fine... personally I'm not a fan of the compost tea as it takes to long to act, if it were me and you didn't want to stunt the growth I would buy a fertility that can be mixed in a gallon jug. Something like botanacare or flora duo.

Plants look pretty heathy otherwise, Happy growing

 

[Father Time]

Also sometimes they will yellow if they are getting to much sun so if nutrients don't help then maybe reduce the amount of direct sunlight it gets if it gets alot... also as you may know salvia is fairly sensitive to over and under watering over watering can cause yellow conditions can also cause tip burn. Underwatering can cause the tips to brown as well

 

[When]

Also sometimes they will yellow if they are getting to much sun so if nutrients don't help then maybe reduce the amount of direct sunlight it gets if it gets alot... also as you may know salvia is fairly sensitive to over and under watering over watering can cause yellow conditions can also cause tip burn. Underwatering can cause the tips to brown as well

Imo, Father Time nailed it with the light exposure causing your pale leaves, careful with the nutes. :thumb_up:

 

[kerelsk]

Yes, I might pick up some easily-administered nutes in a bottle, I'll look around for that when I'm out.

I've been giving them pretty heavy doses of manure tea I had sitting in a bucket in the sun for weeks, also tried adding in a little molasses, and they don't seem to be suffering or improving particularly because of it. And they are growing, somewhat slowly but making progress as usual. I've heard it's not unusual for them to take longer to grow a leaf in fuller sun, as the leaf itself will be bulkier.

Overwatering is a possibility so I'll cut back on that. They're under a shadecloth and covered part of the day by other plants, but I think you're right about too much sun. I have a feeling that it's a combination of missing a bit of some nutrient, overwatering, and oversunning.

Thank you, Father Time, and When, it helps me a lot