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Salvia extraction question

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urtica

urtica

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I am doing a salvia extraction using 95% EtOH instead of IPA or Acetone.

I am wondering if I could remove the fats & chlorophyll by floating naptha on top of the EtOH & shaking, then letting it separate.

It seems that naptha is slightly miscible with ethanol, so I would not use the cleaned extract as a tincture, but I could evaporate off all the solvent and then put the powder back into solution for a concentrated tincture for sublingual use.

Yes? Does this make sense?

Thanks!
 
Hi, I just made excellent tincture using this method.

For sublingual use, I really wouldn't get too concerned about cleaning it: full-spectrum extracts are generally believed to be far more effective than pure salvinorin, as the extras are believed to increase solubility and bioavailability.

I'd also abandon any hope of making a "concentrated tincture" unless you're prepared to use acetone as the vehicle, which I would not recommend. As the linked article shows, even in 95% Ethanol, salvinorin has relatively poor solubility, ~ 1.3mg/ml, and a light dose is therefore 2-3 ml of 95% ethanol. This cannot go anywhere near your oral mucosa as is! It will burn like hell, and probably ulcerate & strip tissue while you're waiting to blast off. I dilute my 95% tincture with 2 parts hot water, so actual ABV is closer to 32% and that is bearable, but with the heat, I wouldn't like it any stronger.

The limited solubility is actually useful to measure your salvinorin indirectly. When you add the dried green goo to minimal ethanol, the wax & chlorophylls dissolve instantly, leaving a fine, whitish sediment at the bottom of your pale green solution. That is your salvinorin. By adding ethanol dropwise until that just dissolves, you know you have a pretty well-saturated solution, and if you record the quantity used you can calculate how much you had. E.g. if it takes 100 ml of 95% ethanol to dissolve completely, you likely had about 130mg salvinorin in there to begin with.
 
There's a few salvinorin extraction threads around here; best one I recall points out that the salvinorin occurs on the outside of the leaves (in capitate glandular trichomes) so you can actually just rinse the whole dried leaf a few times with ice cold anhydrous acetone to get a very pure product after minimal cleanup. BUT don't work with pure crystalline salvinorin a, it's far too potent!
 
Most oral salvia tincture reports claim it doesnt work that well?

....[[What kind of experiance have you people had using oral tincture?:?: !!!??....

Im trying to make some salvia extract tincture by .[[extracting the extract]].. from my 40x and 20x and 60x and suspend it in grain alcohol...[for posible sublingual use]..[because smoking itis often too intense].. [if this is posible]?

The first mini test i messed up because i filtered my alcohol pull through a coffie filter..

I think the salvorian A did not pass through the fine coffie filter...because after filtering and evaporation ..the stuff i scraped up i tryed to vape and it didnt do anything?!

And i know the 20x was very potent if smoked..

I think sublingual might work best if the tincture is very potent...
 
I'll let you know, mine should be done today or tomorrow. Smoking is also too intense for me and I am not sure that the plant likes that method of ingestion.
 
Oh.. if you are using alcohol to extract salvia..use [Ever clear] ..190 proof grain alcohol!
The lower volumes of alcohol wont do the job right...too much water in them.. and salvorian A wont desolve in water...
hop this helps..
 
I've work with salvia divinorum quite a bit.
So what I discovered is that tincture didn't work for me. Perhaps I'm not very sensitive to it. 5x extract smoaked was my first breakthru experience, but I've opted for 20 or 25x as less smoke is required into lungs for full on experience.
Some report that growing your own and smoking just the leaf is all that is required so your mileage may vary.
Quidding is another method that never worked for me. Thats where you take salvia leaf and roll it up and place it in your cheek for a while.
Funny how saliva was all the rage a few years ago. There was even a salvia forum that is long gone.
 
mad_banshee said:
I've work with salvia divinorum quite a bit.
So what I discovered is that tincture didn't work for me. Perhaps I'm not very sensitive to it. 5x extract smoaked was my first breakthru experience, but I've opted for 20 or 25x as less smoke is required into lungs for full on experience.
Some report that growing your own and smoking just the leaf is all that is required so your mileage may vary.
Quidding is another method that never worked for me. Thats where you take salvia leaf and roll it up and place it in your cheek for a while.
Funny how saliva was all the rage a few years ago. There was even a salvia forum that is long gone.
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Dont underestimate salvia divinorum !!..
I think the reason that salvia isnt talked about much ..is that she takes you further and deeper inside where it harder to make sense of the experiance because it can connect you to your beginning..and beginnings of past ancesters!

Salvia D.. may seem less enjoyable.. but she is a serious journey inside ones self ..

I find lighter doses of salvia to be more enjoyable and easier to navagate and understand than heavy doses that can just overwhelm the subject.

Rercently..I even got this crazy idea on one light salvia trip.. that the reason she isnt talked about much on nexus is ...because in reality .. she is being protected by those of us who know of her awesome power to shatter the protective filters in our minds and alow for a deeper journey inside where its harder to relate or make sense of the brains symbolic language and it isnt always easy to understand an ancient language older than time itself..

Im shure Dmt is a fun roller coaster ride with its own lever of wisdoms but salvia although simmilar is a very diferent and serious experiance i think..



I really like the beautyfull imagry that dmt offers it can be a ride of of intense joy for many..
crazy as it sounds :roll: ...
It almost seems that DMT is protecting the shepardes by keeping her safley in the shadows for only those who dare to feel her embrace..😁
just my imagination..
 
mad_banshee said:
...Some report that growing your own and smoking just the leaf is all that is required...
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Funny that you mention that banshee, because this last Friday night, after having not partaken of Salvia divinorum for nearly 13 years, I pulled out a bag full of dried leaf that I had grown myself well over a decade ago that happened to be stashed in my sacred stash box.

I thought to myself, "let's see how potent this stuff still is after all these many years"...


Well, I packed a several-gram bowl into my sacred pipe & smoked it down quickly, holding each inhalation for quite a long time relatively.

It blew my mind just like it used to.

First I was train running down psychedelic tracks; then the tracks started to have big block letters in red & yellow between the railroad ties.

Then, I was a folding aligator; folding in upon myself over & over & over ad nauseum.

Then I was down & smiling to myself thinking, "holy crap, this stuff is still that potent after almost a decade & a half? WTF?" :shock:
 
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