T.Harper
Rising Star
Since I was just promoted and can post over here in the Salvia section I am gonna make this conversation as a thread. I dont have any answers, just some ideas. Once I had experience that illuminated that the route of Salvia was working with the smell pathways, and that Salvia = Smell everything made so much more sense on how to work with the Sage to open up and encourage the consciousness into these spaces.
Also I am going to throw out some little tidbits:
Salvinorin A is a diterpene, and of course, Terpenes are the primary constituents of the essential oils of many types of plants and flowers. They are the aromatics and anti-fungals.
Research with mothers-babies-smell conection comes up with some goodies, its the first and strongest information/emotional/and survival bonding. A Common Salvinorin spirit encountered is the "main one" a large motherly and caring one, encountering these beings ones perspective/orientation is very tiny.
Hemispheric differences (from wiki, olfactory memory page)
.... Different parts of the brain are involved in olfactory memory, depending on what type of memory is being processed (e.g. implicit memory-habituation or explicit memory-recognition) and this is evident in the results of explicit and implicit tasks of memory. Studies have shown that the left hemisphere is activated during verbal semantic retrieval of odor-related memories, while the right hemisphere shows activation during non-verbal retrieval of semantic odor-related information.....
This I find really interesting, with a rapid onset (smoking) one really cant control which direction they go into, some people always go to the right some always go to the left, some go up some go out. Some people it changes, some dont. Curious if there was a way to see and see if the right goers are more engaged at going into the space and the left goers are trying to process the experience more, less comfortable or have brains that are more into language and writing, errr i dunno maybe something this brain stuff gets me.
Olfaction " projects to the hippocampus and is involved in motivation and memory. Odor information is stored in long-term memory and has strong connections to emotional memory. This is possibly due to the olfactory system's close anatomical ties to the limbic system and hippocampus, areas of the brain that have long been known to be involved in emotion and place memory, respectively."--->wiki olfaction
If i understand this corrrectly its the thin outer layer of hippocampus is the smell transfer zone, its a thin membrane that retrieves the codes and projects it out. That basically what everyone says is happening in deep and long Salvia Space.
i have more to sya but gotta jet.
T.Harper said:She is directly activating the Olfactory Memory,
and since
this triggering of Embodied Memory
is not from an actual smell,
----------- the consciousness, searches for the connection ------------------
(((("i know this, what is this" )))
((("of course, how could i forget" )))))
with a world that is unzipping from the inside out
Smell is the oldest sense
Smell is the strongest sense
Smell is the most powerful memory
The world around you becomes variations on a theme, no longer imbedded within the linear time stream... balance teh two poles, cycles, spinning, orientation. Disphoria, imbalance, the world around becomes these themes a symbolic template where memory has built the foundations, why are looking around the meat world....close your eyes, man. look inward. reaching back into the memories the world you exist in becomes overlayed with it. Dark visions, Saliva isnt here to seduce you with lightshows of colors and fractals..... she has no time for games. Balance the worlds, this is medicine. The film strip of multiple versions of the self, this past has lead you to this point in time..... is this model correct? Adjust your program.
drfaust said:Thanks so much for the creative response. It sent me on an interesting journey into researching the sense of smell and its connection to memory and emotion.
I also researched kappa-opioid agonists and memory enhancement and memory recovery and there is some research on that, but not too much I could find.
I'm interested in the connection to the sense of smell, taste, and intuition.
Smell, as the oldest distal sense is also the most diffuse and open ended, the most in need of association and intepretation. In some senses it maps well to intuition as a vague sense of something, or a hint of something.
And then we have our proximal senses, of which the most primitive is the kinesthetic sense or the sense of movement. Salvia is rich in that domain as well, which may be a part of some of its most paradoxical and disorienting effects.
“On the basis of time, we understand movement, and on the basis of movement, time” --Fink
"kinestheses are correlated only with other kinestheses." Our sense of movement and place is so basic to us and so self-referential that it cannot be an object. Movement is related to movement and very sense of being alive is a sense of movement.
Salvia, by destabilizing that most basic sense of position and movement and time, takes me to the sense of being vs. becoming.
I wonder on the connection between intuition, smell, movement, and position. Perhaps smell was the first distal sense and basic motor and position sense was and is the primary proximal sense and somehow Salvia brings a plasticity to those domains?
I do see that the sense of smell is one of the most plastic and quickly adjusting and regenerating senses. Is that true of kinesthetic sense as well?
Also I am going to throw out some little tidbits:
Salvinorin A is a diterpene, and of course, Terpenes are the primary constituents of the essential oils of many types of plants and flowers. They are the aromatics and anti-fungals.
Research with mothers-babies-smell conection comes up with some goodies, its the first and strongest information/emotional/and survival bonding. A Common Salvinorin spirit encountered is the "main one" a large motherly and caring one, encountering these beings ones perspective/orientation is very tiny.
Hemispheric differences (from wiki, olfactory memory page)
.... Different parts of the brain are involved in olfactory memory, depending on what type of memory is being processed (e.g. implicit memory-habituation or explicit memory-recognition) and this is evident in the results of explicit and implicit tasks of memory. Studies have shown that the left hemisphere is activated during verbal semantic retrieval of odor-related memories, while the right hemisphere shows activation during non-verbal retrieval of semantic odor-related information.....
This I find really interesting, with a rapid onset (smoking) one really cant control which direction they go into, some people always go to the right some always go to the left, some go up some go out. Some people it changes, some dont. Curious if there was a way to see and see if the right goers are more engaged at going into the space and the left goers are trying to process the experience more, less comfortable or have brains that are more into language and writing, errr i dunno maybe something this brain stuff gets me.
Olfaction " projects to the hippocampus and is involved in motivation and memory. Odor information is stored in long-term memory and has strong connections to emotional memory. This is possibly due to the olfactory system's close anatomical ties to the limbic system and hippocampus, areas of the brain that have long been known to be involved in emotion and place memory, respectively."--->wiki olfaction
If i understand this corrrectly its the thin outer layer of hippocampus is the smell transfer zone, its a thin membrane that retrieves the codes and projects it out. That basically what everyone says is happening in deep and long Salvia Space.
i have more to sya but gotta jet.