Same repeating trip on first two breakthroughs

[Roosh]

Hi Guys,

I just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced repeating breakthroughs like a repeating dream?
I have taken around 200 acid trips and been dropping for around 20 years so i felt well prepared for taking DMT. HaHa! how foolish was I ?
Anyway The first breakthrough I smoked around 150mg using a dry bucket (2ltr bong), which I now know is a very high dose for a first attempt. I remember the details of my trip quite well considering although i did want to scream at one point when it was getting too intense, basically i went through the normal geometric landscape bleeding into my vision, before being transported to a different realm but unlike most DMT reports that i've read mine seemed very claustrophobic (a term i have not heard mentioned much) the world i was in was completely surrounding which shocked me and i wasn't expecting that. I felt connected to everything which i thought would make me feel powerful but it actually made me feel isolated and lonely, i was shown the universe in totality by a kind of DMT presence more than an actual being but the thing that is bugging me is that I was taken to a place of emptiness ( a white empty room with just me inside it) which I felt was a kind of beginning of the universe or that all existence and life and the universe is on a cycle and it is inevitable to eventually return to such a place. In feeling that I was everything and everything was me it was like I had no escape and that I was just inventing things (the world, earth) as a form of entertainment or distraction to the constantness of existence. When I say me/God i don't mean it in the biblical sense I mean just in the all knowing consciousness sense.

Anyway the first breakthrough was intense but what shocked me was the second time I broke through even though the middle section or journey section or the breakthrough itself was different I still eventually ended up in the same isolated white space as before. The reason i'm writing this is because it freaked the fuck of me and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced multiple repeating breakthroughs.

On the plus side I definitely was not as freaked out as the first time because i just kind of thought "oh it's this place the place where all life begins, the me in a white box space, give it a minute ad we'll probably move onto something else, another space, environment".

 

[concombres]

Hi Guys,

I just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced repeating breakthroughs like a repeating dream?
I have taken around 200 acid trips and been dropping for around 20 years so i felt well prepared for taking DMT. HaHa! how foolish was I ?
Anyway The first breakthrough I smoked around 150mg using a dry bucket (2ltr bong), which I now know is a very high dose for a first attempt. I remember the details of my trip quite well considering although i did want to scream at one point when it was getting too intense, basically i went through the normal geometric landscape bleeding into my vision, before being transported to a different realm but unlike most DMT reports that i've read mine seemed very claustrophobic (a term i have not heard mentioned much) the world i was in was completely surrounding which shocked me and i wasn't expecting that. I felt connected to everything which i thought would make me feel powerful but it actually made me feel isolated and lonely, i was shown the universe in totality by a kind of DMT presence more than an actual being but the thing that is bugging me is that I was taken to a place of emptiness ( a white empty room with just me inside it) which I felt was a kind of beginning of the universe or that all existence and life and the universe is on a cycle and it is inevitable to eventually return to such a place. In feeling that I was everything and everything was me it was like I had no escape and that I was just inventing things (the world, earth) as a form of entertainment or distraction to the constantness of existence. When I say me/God i don't mean it in the biblical sense I mean just in the all knowing consciousness sense.

Anyway the first breakthrough was intense but what shocked me was the second time I broke through even though the middle section or journey section or the breakthrough itself was different I still eventually ended up in the same isolated white space as before. The reason i'm writing this is because it freaked the fuck of me and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced multiple repeating breakthroughs.

On the plus side I definitely was not as freaked out as the first time because i just kind of thought "oh it's this place the place where all life begins, the me in a white box space, give it a minute ad we'll probably move onto something else, another space, environment".

You will find that what you experienced is not particularly uncommon- that feeling of being alone in the universe, creating things as a god to keep yourself entertained & distracted.

I have yet to experience it but have read several experience reports involving that same feeling & ideology.

If you want to try following it further & get an understanding of it, i believe doing some research into the illusion of self will provide some further insight.

 

[null24]

One of the most interesting things about DMT is the objective reality it seems to carry. Yes, I go to the same places over and over, but not like in a dream where the topography is all mine. I do not feel that create the DMT space but rather that it is created for me and that the spaces I enter could cry well be the same any given explorers find on their journey.

I'm waiting for the day when I meet one if y'all there. :shock:

 

[hortwizard]

Hey Roosh!

I thought your experience was incredibly interesting. While i have never had a repeating spice trip, it did remind me of a book I read this past summer called The Rxperience Of No-Self by Bernadette Roberts. I read the book for a Magic and Mysticism class. Anyway, in the book she talks about having a mystical experience where at first she had a feeling of oneness with everything followed by a prolonged period of emptyness that she termed No-self or ego death as us pychonauts call it. Where sbe felt completely alone in the universe. If you do a search of her name online it will explain in more detail.

Happy Travels,

Hortwizard

 

[Roosh]

Hey Guys,

Thank you all for your replies and advice.

Concombres, just hearing that it's not uncommon makes me feel less trepidation about my next Hyper-flight, I will definitely take your advice and do some research on the-illusion-of-self, sounds like an interesting topic as well as hopefully providing some mental tools/armoury if I experience the same again.

Null24, it's really interesting to here that you can go to the same places/spaces repeatedly, DMT is so different to any other psychedelic i've experienced, there's so much to learn. Ummm yeah I too don't feel like i create the DMT space or even have any control over it but the repeating dream analogy was the only way i could think to describe/similarities it. I too ave the feeling that other explorers could visit the spaces, it's almost a concrete feeling that each space is definite and unchangeable, like a part of the grand design.

Hortwizard, thanks for the book recommendation :thumb_up: , i'll definitely check that out and give it a read before my next journey knowledge is power as they say.

Thanks again for the advice, very much appreciated, safe travels