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Smoking Anedenanthera Colubrina (Cebil)

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SWIM decided to give this a try - she had heard about smoking Cebil seeds freebased with some lime. For the first time, one seed was heated, peeled, crushed, mixed with lime and a few drops of water, dried, and smoked on a small bed of passion flower leaves. The effects are very subtle, but pretty interesting. It's like tunnel vision in all her senses - SWIM feels like she's more aware of the separation between body and mind, and feels like she's wearing her body as a suit. Sights, and sounds, have this slight feeling of being different than usual.

Pretty interesting stuff! Next time SWIM might try two to three seeds, and she'll see if she can get any further into the realm :)
 
If you extract the bufotenine, it will be pure bliss... Don't you get bad nausea from smoking the seeds? I do, at least...
 
SWIM didn't feel any nausea, not one bit! (By the way, is SWIM proper on this forum? Or are we all too cool for that? I like to test the waters at a new forum just so I don't piss anyone off, but I'd be happy either way.)

Noted, SWIM only used one seed. You're not smoking with the black shell still on, are you? I have no idea if that is active, if it's irritating, or whatever, but I do know it looks like a cockroach! :p

The thing with extractions is...SWIM doesn't have her own kitchen at the time being, so SWIM can't really try any of that fun stuff. Maybe someday soon, SWIM will get to try that. But to be honest, SWIM is most interested in what nature has to provide in the forms nature sees fit. Extractions seem almost rude :)
 
You may use SWIM if you'd like so. Some people (including me) are not too big fans of it, but I can't see how anyone can decide whether or not you want to self-incriminate. It is your own choice.

I get intense nausea from smoking just half a seed. Both with the black shell and off. It is some actives in the shell, but it is also believed more of the nauseating stuff is in there. It is great to hear you did not experience any nausea! Perhaps you are one of the few that can really experience Cebil/Yopo without extracting the goodies. In that case, that is great! If you want to do it as natural as possible, make a snuff! And report back here... ;)

Oh, and by the way, I welcome you so much to this lovely forum!
 
Madcapv2 - Believe it or not, I looked around, and the best place I could find, with the best shipping, was Ebay! They've got all sorts of seeds there, and I found someone who was selling both Cebil and HBWR (the latter of which I have yet to try). Clearly, at least the Cebil seeds are of some good quality!

Evening Glory - love the name, by the way! I'm perfectly comfortable not using SWIM - it feels awkward. I just know some forums get paranoid about that kind of stuff, and I've had posts deleted elsewhere just for mentioning things bordering on questionable!

I've never actually felt physically ill from any psychoactive substance I've tried - though I've shied away from some because I worry about it, not because I don't believe "la purga" is a useful experience, but because my living situations unfortunately require me to be discrete with my experimentation. Generally, though, I'm pretty sensitive to anything consciousness-altering, so my mind starts getting unhappy long before I've consumed enough for my body to mind.

I definitely look forward to trying some more Cebil, and using larger amounts (have you ever "broken through" by smoking it? What I felt tonight was lovely, but certainly kept at least one and a half feet on the ground the whole time... I've never really been in a setting safe enough that I could go for a breakthrough on any substance, sadly.) No more Cebil tonight though - I've made myself some Kava and plan on taking it easy tonight :)

Tomorrow I was thinking about trying my first HBWR seed (just one, to test the waters) but maybe I'll try the rest of the Cebil I've prepared first? It's just about another seed, maybe one and a half. I'll see how it goes. As for the snuff, it's certainly an interesting thought, but I'm kind of afraid of damaging my nasal passages with that sort of physical invasion, and besides that, I don't like pain! :p

Oh! By the way, do you know how I go about getting access to the rest of the forums here? There are some awesome discussions going on that I'd love to take part it - my restriction to the nursery makes me visit here less often than I'd like, actually :(
 
I've never broken through with Cebil seeds, the nausea is too bad for that. But with pure bufotenin... Oh yes! That is truly otherwordly. I like it better than smoked DMT.

I hope you will have a good time with HBWR! They have some nasties in them they too, so if you don't like to feel a bit poisoned, keep the dosages low.

The nursery is only meant as a way for new members to get acquainted with how we roll here, this is not regarded the best entheogenic forum without any reason! Just keep on with the lovely tone you have, and I am sure you will be granted full membership soon enough. It helps if you post a good introduction essay by the way, if you have not already done it.
 
Ah, I posted an introduction essay when I first joined, but that was a while ago. It's hard to get involved in the forum when I can only post here, but I'll make do until someone higher up thinks I'm ready to join y'all :)

I only plan on taking one HBWR for my first time, since I've heard that some people notice positive effects with even one. I'll see where things go from there. I've also got some mushrooms in the fridge, but that's something I want to save until I can experience them with someone else. I realllly need some entheogenic friends that I don't only know online :)
 
newdimensions said:
I only plan on taking one HBWR for my first time, since I've heard that some people notice positive effects with even one. I'll see where things go from there.
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Newdimensions, SWIM gets effects from as little as 1 HBWR seed if it is the kind from Hawaii. With those seeds, 4 is almost an overdose for SWIM. But his thin brother who weighs about 1/2 as much needs 10 seeds for good effects, so it varies a lot from person to person. If it’s one of the non Hawaiian strains, like the smooth ones from Ghana, 1 seed will probably do nothing at all, and you might need 50-100 seeds!

Some Anadenanthera seeds can be smoked as is and produce NO SIDE EFFECTS. It all depends on the seed. Some produce serious side effects and almost no other effects.

SWIM’s first true visionary experience with Anadenanthera was from smoking 1 seed in a water bong. Just 1 seed was enough for full blown visionary effects. He came into contact with an ancient mayan-like warrior in his visions, and heard all sorts of jungle sounds. It was amazing. But with some seeds, you can smoke a bunch and get nothing but nausea from them.
 
I would do an alcohol extration on the toasted and freebased seeds. If you toast them properly you can probabily get rid of whatever extra nauseating compounds there are..Most of the reports even with pure bufotenine xtals from what I had read by the people who actaully got there had at least some nausea, aside from 69ron..and I dont even always get it with iso pulls..so id do either that or pull xtals..save your lungs.
 
Endlessness - Thank you so much! I can't wait to really "meet the family" around here :)

69ron - These are indeed Hawaiian HBWR seeds, or at least the vendor claims so. I suppose I'll find out soon enough! It's interesting how all of these seeds vary so differently in potency and alkaloid content.

Fractal Enchantment - What would you recommend for an alcohol extraction of Anedenanthera seeds? Just toasting, crushing, freebasing, soaking, and straining? Or is there more to it?

The whole extraction thing to reduce nausea makes me wonder, since even people who do extractions sometimes have nausea, and sometimes feel nothing (either they did it wrong, or the seeds were empty to begin with). I get the feeling it's an extra step you can take, but it doesn't really guarantee anything.

I had a dream last night where I was eating sunflower seeds, but instead of eating lots at a time, as I often do, I was going through them very slowly and carefully, not rushing the snack. I think that's telling me I really need to trust my body with these seeds, and continue when it's ready. Right now, my body is saying that it's still quite happy from the experience last night, and it'll let me know when it's ready for more.

(Psychedelic experiences tend to be pretty powoerful for me. After my first one, on a phenethylamine compound, I realized exactly why I enjoy smoking marijuana and similar herbs, and I realized why it was so silly. Since that day, I almost entirely stopped smoking them, and when I do try to return, it just does almost nothing pleasant for me. My meditation practice, on the other hand, gained some strength following this "redistribution" experience. All this, after one "low" dose of one of the lightest psychedelics out there :) )
 
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Fractal Enchantment - What would you recommend for an alcohol extraction of Anedenanthera seeds? Just toasting, crushing, freebasing, soaking, and straining? Or is there more to it?
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Yes..do about 5 pulls on the seeds once they are toasted, crushed and based, with 99% iso alcohol(or acetone but I haveenver used acetone)..75% iso i am guessing will work as well..then I evaporate that onto some leaf material..you want it very concentrated though..I used 40 seeds worth for each batch, which weights about 6 grams..sometimes a bit more..and I use about 1 gram of leaf material as the base..and i also do an alcohol extraction on some caapi and add that to it as well..

For me that will give me 15 strong doses..so 15 doses from 1 gram of leaf isnt much to smoke at all..3 large hits space out over a few minutes will be a high dose for me.
 
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