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GlobalPredictor

GlobalPredictor

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i am new to DMT, so please forgive my somewhat low-budget-super-hero-approach, but i heard & read a lot about it, went through hell to make it, and, unfortunately, I'm quite disappointed with incoherence of 3rd party reports VS personal experience.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but DMT does not seem to have any depth, its only graphic, NOT spiritual in essence. imagery includes anything from radiant fractal tsunamis and waltzing rainbow forests, to 4D golden matrix ad campaigns for unknown communication technologies lined with bursting Japanese price tags, swaying ruby Koi carps, and confused flower scissors floating in a glorious vacuum of digital phantasmagoria that somehow seems to gain momentum and detail with every passing moment... until it dissipates into thin darkness without a trace..

but nobody wants to make contact, as advertized! its like the whole thing is completely oblivious to humans, its there for a pretty show, a sidekick reality to keep our blazing minds occupied, while the real thing slips away into unbounded Multiverse.

has anyone here actually had a meaningful communication with an intelligence other than their own on DMT?

I have, but only on shrooms....

PS: i also had e feeling of everything accelerating, getting unnecessarily hectic, as if someone was trying to fast forward the experience to completion, steering me away from the essence...
 
the full title reads: "smoking DMT is like opening your kitchen window and contemplating a street performance by a travelling freak circus bent on exquisite geometric porn"
 
GlobalPredictor said:
please correct me if i'm wrong, but DMT does not seem to have any depth, its only graphic, NOT spiritual in essence.
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Guess it's not for you. Better luck with whatever comes next.
 
This seems like a very interesting topic. I get where you're coming from. I've yet to experience the full depth of DMT, but one element that leads me to believe that DMT is deeper than what you suggest is that there seems to be a certain degree of maneuverability. Have you tried to slow things down in there? Perhaps by focusing, for example? Hyperspace itself responds to your interactions, and that's where the presence begins for me. I've also made contact with "entities", but nothing as elaborate as has been described elsewhere.

Another interesting element is the presence of "layers" of trips through which I've moved briefly.

What substances do you prefer? What experiences do you consider more enriching?
 
GlobalPredictor said:
please correct me if i'm wrong, but DMT does not seem to have any depth, its only graphic, NOT spiritual in essence.
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Ime, this is far from the case...in all honesty, it sounds like you haven't broken through (but I obviously don't know, only you can say)...either that or you are just overly fixated on visuals? I can't say for sure as I am not you, but some of my deepest experiences with DMT have been nearly devoid of visuals. Other breakthrough experiences have been entirely focused on entities or on the mechanics of reality/existence. The geometry and ghost images that you describe are only present while coming up/down or on lower dose experiences.

GlobalPredictor said:
has anyone here actually had a meaningful communication with an intelligence other than their own on DMT?
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Yes (granted, there's know way to prove it at this point, but I subjectively felt these beings to be "real" and not me), multiple times, various entities, sometimes multiple times with the same entities (which I realized when I returned to hyperspace and remembered them from a previous trip, or on other occasions when they welcomed me back/reminded me of previous interactions).
 
i prefer shrooms BY FAR. had the deepest, most tantalizing experiences with them... i truly felt like i spoke to God many times in terms of knowledge and wisdom i extracted from psilocybin... it changed my life to the point of no return, forced me to search deeper into topics that were completely alien to my being for 30 years. i even made a video and a poem about it:
I have learnt that our minds are an endless, timeless, fruitful and limitless truth,
Void of fear, and highly pretendless, they bare love and unbounded youth.
Something higher fills our heads with wonder, wild beauty and jungle rain,
As it strokes us with untamed thunder, as it exorcises our pain.

It had made me profoundly certain, that behind all material things,
There exists something much more important, something great and unbounded by strings,
Something able to heal all soreness - vivid, vibrant and soaked in devotion,
Something pure, abundant and boreless; you may sometimes call it emotion...

I considered all ways and all choices, sometimes impotent, weak and in vain,
I have listened to thousands of voices, and I treated them all just the same,
And I learnt to believe in a meaning, higher force that we all disregard,
And I opened my eyes to be free now; and I called this life EN GARDE!

And my world filled with a billion choices, and it gave me a reason to be,
As it muted the doubtful voices, that hummed quietly inside me.
It corrected my inner visions, whether personal or united,
It acknowledged my higher decisions, my benevolence igniting...

It may heed no immediate meanings, for subjective it always remains,
And it ends to give way to beginnings, always passing through thinner planes.
And it chases away the shadows, from all fear and sin it refrains,
It feels guilty, yet begs no pardons, as it tares and breaks our chains.

And I lost sense of fear and treason, and I found a wisdom within,
I saw emptiness drenched with reason; I met virtue soaking in sin.
And the details really dont matter, whether sober, or dark, or sublime,
My dreams now remain unshattered - vibrant, potent, and unbounded by time...
 
It sounds like you had expectations. I think its a natural thing
Based on all the research necessary to make this stuff in the first place .
. I learned very quickly that the machine elves
Are not waiting there for you right off the bat. It's not just a visual thing lacking depth at all .
I can say it has a deeply spiritual component to it . I.m not going to be
A cheerleader for it . Keep doing it see what happens.
There are so many levels to this you have no idea . How many times have you gone ?
It's taken me years of work with this to even get close to a basic understanding.
The beings in there communicate with feelings and varying intensities of love vibrational energy
It's not obvious at first .Anyway blah blah blah .....one more thing super hero

Approach can be good to a point but be careful . This thing can give you an ass kicking
You can't even begin to imagine in your wildest dreams .
Be cool give it a chance set setting set setting set setting .......
 
GlobalPredictor said:
the full title reads: "smoking DMT is like opening your kitchen window and contemplating a street performance by a travelling freak circus bent on exquisite geometric porn"
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This made me laugh. Geometric porn somehow rings a bell haha.

Smoking Spice is kind of like sex in the fact that our largest sex organ is our brain, while we are under the illusion it's all about what's between the legs. Try not to get over obsessed in the little details that you miss out on the big picture because that is when you can reach transcendental realms.

~peace and love
 
I would just like to comment on the meaning communication part. I believe this is a very subjective idea/topic, From my very limited exeriences, I made it a clear objective to bring as much information/knowledge/wisdom as I could. Now I was sadly dissappointed I was not having 1 on 1 conversations with alien hyperspace beings, but I did encounter an entity that never spoke, but I only FELT what it was trying to communicate- an unimagineable sense of reassurance and love. I believe that this alone, is communication, but meaningful only if you interpret the meanings you DO get, in a meaningful way.


I dont know if that's making a whole lot of sense, but it was an attempt.
 
id have to agree with snozz. to me it sounds like you just having gotten into the deep waters. no judgment, its not a simple thing to do. it took myself and many, many others dozens of sessions to get the full enchilada.

id also agree with you in a way. after extensive use of dmt, sub breakthrough journeys can be shallow and just a pretty show. even with creatures crawling all around jumping off the furniture in a geo spectra color hologram cathedral is freaking cool but how does that further expand my being? it doesnt.

honestly if you want to know why i love dmt its because of the post breakthrough visionary state. this is the information download screen for me. a place where i can see the perfect system of the physical universe at work all at once. or understand what God is and isnt. a place to see and feel the love that we should all have for every man women and child. a place were there arent any secrets and your comprehension is incomprehensible.

decide for yourself if you should continue. maybe consider that what you experienced is possibly just a small part of what can be experienced.
 
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