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Smoking: JimJam vs. Pure DMT
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My opinion is that I cannot tell the difference given a good enough vaporization method, and I doubt most (any?) people could. My hypothesis is that the ones that do think they can tell the difference are being affected by placebo/self-suggestion. The same batch can give completely different experiences even in the same day/setting IME, so how can one say with so much certainty that they know which is which batch?
I proposed a blind testing protocol to test my hypothesis, but so far only one person tested (yellow vs white dmt) in a blind test, and couldnt notice the difference, but we need more people to test.
I proposed a blind testing protocol to test my hypothesis, but so far only one person tested (yellow vs white dmt) in a blind test, and couldnt notice the difference, but we need more people to test.
As for white DMT vs Jimjam I don't believe I could tell in a blind test.
Jimjam or White DMT vs Jungle DMT (pulled with xylene/d-limonene after depleting MHRB of white DMT with naptha) is different enough to distinguish.
I've observed a few differences clear enough to define:
These are mostly observed on doses 10-25mg, hard to pinpoint details on higher doses.
Jungle's effects are:
Shorter in duration than white/jimjam
OEVs are less than white/jimjam than similar dosages and different too.
CEVs are more colorful and for me have more human-type entities than elves/aliens/creatures I see on white/jimjam.
Also the CEVs are "closer", never seen an entities face on white but seen then lots of times clearly on jungle.
The come-up is faster and temporarily more intense though is smoother because white tends to sneak up and then I'm like "Oh I'm no longer on earth...HOLY SHIT"
The comedown is faster and stimulating compared to Jimjam/White's which is sleepy.
That is what I have observed but in breakthrough doses these differences may fall out or become irrelevant. Personally I believe though White and Jimjam are very similar because Jimjam is I'd approximate 70-85% white when you isolate the jungle the differences become apparent.
This is not saying that the analysis on Jungle DMT saying it was pretty much completely DMT are wrong, just my experience.
Jimjam or White DMT vs Jungle DMT (pulled with xylene/d-limonene after depleting MHRB of white DMT with naptha) is different enough to distinguish.
I've observed a few differences clear enough to define:
These are mostly observed on doses 10-25mg, hard to pinpoint details on higher doses.
Jungle's effects are:
Shorter in duration than white/jimjam
OEVs are less than white/jimjam than similar dosages and different too.
CEVs are more colorful and for me have more human-type entities than elves/aliens/creatures I see on white/jimjam.
Also the CEVs are "closer", never seen an entities face on white but seen then lots of times clearly on jungle.
The come-up is faster and temporarily more intense though is smoother because white tends to sneak up and then I'm like "Oh I'm no longer on earth...HOLY SHIT"
The comedown is faster and stimulating compared to Jimjam/White's which is sleepy.
That is what I have observed but in breakthrough doses these differences may fall out or become irrelevant. Personally I believe though White and Jimjam are very similar because Jimjam is I'd approximate 70-85% white when you isolate the jungle the differences become apparent.
This is not saying that the analysis on Jungle DMT saying it was pretty much completely DMT are wrong, just my experience.
Why do you approximate 70-85%? How did you come up with that percentage? I only ask because of the significantly higher percentages found by burnt in the analysis you mention.q21q21 said:
SnozzleBerry said:
Generally get .9%-1.0% using Naptha and Usually get 1.2%-1.35% using D-limonene or Xylene
I usually only do pulls over the first 48 hours and don't completely deplete the bark but I do that with both solvents. Either way I could be way off, just guessing with that and the fact that Jimjam seems very slightly different than white.