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So, today we learnt not to bong 70mg on 3 hours sleep...

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Bonny

Bonny

Rising Star
... hyperspace will be decidedly unforgiving.

Usual style (as from my last thread), home made bottle bong with spice sandwiched between layers of bacci. I had two hits and started to go, staggered (mentally) to get the third time to my face and blast it. And I was gone.

As a factor of the (subjectively) high dose and lack of sleep, my memory is very hazy. All I keep coming back to is one word, onslaught. The entire trip I was basically facing a continuous barrage of power, not altogether malign, but certainly overwhelming. I could feel myself pinned to the chair and essentially gibbering away. When I came back round I was decidedly concerned I may have voided bowel contents, put it that way.

I had some visuals, I know that. But I was completely seperated from my mind this time, any concepts of what I was doing, why I was doing it, who I was, where I was. Time stopped a couple of times, and at some point straight after time stopped, the scene swooped around me and a large head made of facets came in. Like that boss from Lylat Wars. It seemed to be mocking me and my feeble mind as it was withered away by the power.

I eventually remembered I could open my eyes, and aborted the trip and grounded myself in reality.

Sinister, frankly.

Not offputting enough to forego the spice, but I certainly won't be doing it tired again.

AND with jeans, trainers, salopettes, shirt, hoody AND bike jacket with thermal layer inside I was still bloody freezing in my trip. Which also didn't help I think.
 
As mentioned in my previous thread in this nanny section;

70mg gave me a profound and beautiful trip last time.

tried 50 after that, and it was lucid and pretty, but not really deep enough to be interesting. I enjoy being seperated, and wanted that feeling again...

May have overshot it somehow this time :|

First 70mg may have gone slightly wrong (or I'm getting better at taking it), which could explain the mind scrambling. I don't mind the fear, I just don't enjoy having foggy memories (although that appears to be part and parcel of the spice).

As for dressing like I was about to ride through a mid-winter monsoon. I got /very/ cold on the 50mg one, at ~6pm in UK, wearing two jumpers. This time I thought I'd take no chances, and then the temperature crashed to 6 degrees celsius. So yeh, still ended up bloody cold.

Which probably didn't put the trip in a fluffy place.
 
Wow, I wish I could cool down a little, whenever I smoke spice I end up with a crazy heat rush until Im sweating profusely. That's with relatively small doses compared to 70 mg though. I wonder if it has anything to do with it... or if it just changes from person to person.



~BC
 
So little sleep I've lost the ability to type. Bah. I firmly BLAME England for this. I'm in the South East, no snow yet but it's possible.

By the by, this is Andross, the monkey dude from Lylat Wars. Imagine him, but comprised of no discrete lines, but more whorls filling in shapes. I think.

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The current theory is that he was bitch slapping me for getting flippant with the spice :lol:
 
I know what you mean; on high doses I've experienced the brutality of its intelligence; just so far beyond me. Felt broken when I returned. 70mg seems a high dose; and tobacco - at least the store bought stuff - wouldn't be my choice of leaf. Mullein is much kinder, and very easy to find. But if you've a little time, Changa is the way.
 
When I have the time and money, I will start sourcing the components of Changa. It sounds pleasant. Especially getting the stuff that contains MAOI as well.

As said, the 50mg was very vivid but it didn't seem to be going either forward or backwards. Just staying at one point and sedately watching some cool but rather dull architectural transformations.
 
Ebay truly is a marvellous beast isn't it.

Caapi... £7, Chaliponga... £6.50

And I have cock loads of butane knocking about already.

Thank you Camakazi (I would thank in the actual thread, but you know, lesser being and all) for making it look so easy.

How much are you meant to crumble the herb down prior to the actual evaporation stage? And does it matter if you use the fumarate or salt?

Oooh, excited. Just waiting for my MHRB, limonene and heptane (and other assorted potions) to show up, and then it's disco time :D
 
Bonny said:
Ebay truly is a marvellous beast isn't it.

Caapi... £7, Chaliponga... £6.50

And I have cock loads of butane knocking about already.

Thank you Camakazi (I would thank in the actual thread, but you know, lesser being and all) for making it look so easy.

How much are you meant to crumble the herb down prior to the actual evaporation stage? And does it matter if you use the fumarate or salt?

Oooh, excited. Just waiting for my MHRB, limonene and heptane (and other assorted potions) to show up, and then it's disco time :D
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Cut leaf into smokable size before infusion, .5cm x .5cm for example. Use Freebase. Enjoy, infinitely.

Peace.
 
Bonny said:
When I came back round I was decidedly concerned I may have voided bowel contents, put it that way.
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AWESOME! I'm right with you on that one. I have a report on here somewhere where I confident I had pissed myself profusely! I was quite relieved (pun not intended) when I returned and found that I was dry!! 8)
Bonny said:
AND with jeans, trainers, salopettes, shirt, hoody AND bike jacket with thermal layer inside I was still bloody freezing in my trip. Which also didn't help I think.
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I frequently get cold after a big one. I've actually had a friend tell me that I literally sucked the heat from the room. He had to put a jacket on and turn up the heat. Not really sure if it was coincidence or something metaphysical.

Great report. I love your writing style too! 70mg IS quite large I would agree!:shock:

Peace!
-idt
 
idtravlr said:
I've actually had a friend tell me that I literally sucked the heat from the room. He had to put a jacket on and turn up the heat. Not really sure if it was coincidence or something metaphysical.
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Aye, it wouldn't surprise me. I get ferociously cold, which is unusual for me because I never get cold. Hmm, could be a blessing soon though, if it gets very hot.

Great report. I love your writing style too! 70mg IS quite large I would agree!:shock:
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Lol, I have a very high tolerance to drugs, and possibly slightly capricious scales, so frankly they could be just about anything in that ball park :| Not got the money or inclination for 0.001 scales at present.

But I'm glad some enjoys my posts :D There's a better one in here, from a trip I can actually remember, a little further down the page.
 
Hi Bonny,

Yeah, I feel you. I've taken two doses like that within the past 10 days and felt OD'd on both of them. My statement to my husband was something like, "What can I do with that cacophany coming at me."

You probably had different effects from the different doses simply due to a difference (luck) in vaping and consuming techniques. I find that the more sophisticated my vaping equipment becomes, the less DMT I need to load to get the desired effects . . .

Regarding getting cold: Yeah, oh yeah. Before I even take the first hit I am FREEZING. Like CORPSE cold. My husband tests my hands to know when I am getting close to being ready to launch. He also tests them to know when I am done for the night. Whether I know it in my conscious mind or not, as I am coming down from a dose, my temperature is a 100% indicator as to whether I will dose again that night or not. I want to stress that this happens to me even when the ambient temp is in the high 80's (F) AND when I have thermals, followed by sweats/long-sleeve shirt, with sweatshirt and bury myself under blankets.

So, I completely bundle up and bury myself under blankets before I even take the first toke. I still come out of trance corpse-cold and stay that way if I am not done, but I shiver less. . .

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
Yeap swim always feels really cold after taking spice or shrooms, so the cold and the yawning is a first alert really.

Time stopped a couple of times, and at some point straight after time stopped, the scene swooped around me and a large head made of facets came in. Like that boss from Lylat Wars. It seemed to be mocking me and my feeble mind as it was withered away by the power
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Love that, you sum it up so well.
 
mumbles said:
Love that, you sum it up so well.
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Thanks fella.

Can't wait for some heat. Oh, and the Ayahuasca... that could be fun. Although the thought of being demolished by Andross without a known exit time is a tad disconcerting.
 
That's odd. I often get really cold too, and I'm never cold. Wonder what causes it. When I first noticed it, I thought it was from sitting so still for 5 minutes.
Anyone else get cold while they are away?

Pokey the Intrigued
 
Yes, SWIM prefers to blast off with blankets right next to her. That way, she can pull them around when she returns from hyperspace.
 
Pokey said:
That's odd. I often get really cold too, and I'm never cold. Wonder what causes it. When I first noticed it, I thought it was from sitting so still for 5 minutes.
Anyone else get cold while they are away?

Pokey the Intrigued
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I have a theory on that actually. If it is some kind of metaphysical phenomenon, I would think that it has to do with us leaving our bodies. If most of the energy within us is exiting our bodies, then there is very little left to warm us, only enough to keep our organs functioning, etc.

The other possibility is that our brain is getting so damn stimulated that it's being flooded with blood, and thus the blood is leaving our core and our extremities, and we get cold.

I believe that both of these things have been theorized to happen to monk's and priests in deep meditation.

Of course it could be something entirely different...

Peace,
-idt
 
Bonny said:
As mentioned in my previous thread in this nanny section;

70mg gave me a profound and beautiful trip last time.

tried 50 after that, and it was lucid and pretty, but not really deep enough to be interesting. I enjoy being seperated, and wanted that feeling again...

May have overshot it somehow this time :|

First 70mg may have gone slightly wrong (or I'm getting better at taking it), which could explain the mind scrambling. I don't mind the fear, I just don't enjoy having foggy memories (although that appears to be part and parcel of the spice).

As for dressing like I was about to ride through a mid-winter monsoon. I got /very/ cold on the 50mg one, at ~6pm in UK, wearing two jumpers. This time I thought I'd take no chances, and then the temperature crashed to 6 degrees celsius. So yeh, still ended up bloody cold.

Which probably didn't put the trip in a fluffy place.
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What was the time span between the 70 and 50 dose? The 50 does may have been weakened if you did not give sufficent time between trips.
 
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