Soon to try spice for first time

[brilliantlydim]

I just finished my second spice extraction, but first (sort of ) successful one, details here. I have enough for a first time try, about 40mg. Just waiting for the right moment. Of course I have read and read and read all kinds of pertinent information on the matter but if anyone would like to share any advice, or comments before I blast off, I'd be happy to read them.

My experience with entheogens is pretty minor. One huge breathrough trip with Bufo 5-MeO, 3 decent shrooms trips, and I have gotten really baked a few times just to give some context.

 

[Tryptallmine]

Get your surroundings nice and comfy for you, make sure you don't have to handle anything hot like pipes etc. Get a nice comfy blanket, some nice tunes if that's what you like.

You could dip your toes in and do two halves of 20mg.

40mg won't hurt you, but it could be viewed as a decent trip for a first timer.

It sounds like you're in a good head space and a pretty level person so set yourself up, calm yourself down and blast off, nice long smooth inhalation and let the magic happen.

 

[RoGu3]

Yeah I have a designated bean bag chair all of my friends and I call it the DMT chair lol

I'd have to agree with everything Tryptallmine said. Make sure you're in a good headspace. Lighting and time of day are important for me too. I prefer DMT in the morning or at night for some reason.

Music always makes my trips 10x more interesting. I love Tipper for blasting off, or Ott/Shpongle.

Using a torch works a lot better than a lighter

Make sure to hold the hit in until you're in outer space (About 10 seconds). The taste is gnarly yes! Happy travels to you friend :thumb_up:

 

[Jees]

...You could dip your toes in and do two halves of 20mg...

Yep.
:thumb_up:

 

[Leithen]

Some great advice above!

For me, I am always slightly nervous. I have to distinguish normal, expected anxiety from more serious, dangerous anxiety. What I mean by more dangerous anxiety is nerves that usually relate to important things that you wont be able to block out. A good example of this would be my friend who was extremely worried taking spice with his girlfriend as he only felt comfortable doing it alone at first. He ended up not having much of an experience because of it.

Dont be too worried, but some apprehension is normal. It sounds like you have done your research and mostly know what to do. This is perhaps the most important step.

Nerves are the biggest thing for me but I also:
Turn off my phone
Lock doors
Turn on music
Get comfortable
Meditate

These are just things I do to help me. I am sure it is different for everyone but try different thing and just do whatever makes YOU feel good!

Best of luck in your travels!

 

[Purges]

Smoke it like you mean it. But be gentle with the lighter. You don't want the flame to touch or scorch the spice, rather melt --> vapor. Enhanced leaf and Changa are excellent tools. Look into those too!

The taste is gnarly yes! Happy travels to you friend :thumb_up:

Not if you vape it right but, first time around you probably will burn some.

With that in mind, maybe a 10-15mg training dose is advisable? 40mg is a solid dose, not to be trifled with :twisted:

Your call, you probably have a good idea of the sheer intensity of this stuff. :thumb_up:

 

[brilliantlydim]

Thanks guys, good advice. I think I will try 20mg first. I was contemplating if I should attempt a breakthrough first time or not. My experience with 5-MeO was, and I am thankful for it, but it does make sense to get a feel for this stuff first. With doing my own xtracts I know I will have multiple opportunities to explore the depths of this spice.

I am not sure if music is a good idea or not. I really love some music, but I am not a music guy in the sense that I don't listen to music often. Maybe it should be something to try my second time? When I am taking things like shrooms I tend to keep outside stimuli to a min, I am usually looking for a "pure" experience/message. Maybe the first time it would be good to not have music playing to get a feel for the experience at its "baseline". Then maybe another 20mg trip with some music to get a feel for how it can direct or effect the trip. Then when I am ready (and after I extract some more) a breakthrough attempt without excess outer stimuli? This is the current strategy I have playing out in my mind right now.

P.S.Question for you guys, is it possible to get 20mg, 40mg, 60mg, or even more in one hit? I read a lot about 3 big pulls. When I had my Bufo 5-MeO trip, it was over 100mg of venom in one big inhalation. By the time I was finished inhaling and was holding it in, my body was dissolving with in 4 seconds. It would be impossible for me to take another toke. Is the come up a little slower ( I know still hyper speed) than 5-MeO, if not I don't see how I can take more than one toke.

Thanks again. This site is a great resource, and you people are an awesome bunch.

 

[brilliantlydim]

Well I'm back. Interesting first trip. Really anxious before blast off and a bit during come up, but that dissolved away as it usually does with shrooms and I find myself in a strangely familiar place.

Nothing deep or insightful, but a good intro to the feel of it. Was reminiscent of peaking on mushrooms, but with a lot more speed and intensity. Not only the come up and down, but the movement of patterns, thoughts, etc. A lot of crazy visuals, with some seeming intelligence behind them.

I was still very much "there" the whole time. My dose must have ended up being pretty minimal, I was up and baseline again in about 5 min from what I can gather. I might have blown out the smoke too soon, I felt the come up and blew it out because I had it in my mind that if I was holding my breath when I peaked I might not breath haha. Definitely time felt like it slowed right down.

Coming up was like everything in the room became its own light source and was being "turned up". I laid on my couch and stared at the ceiling, closed my eyes a couple times to see what was going on in there. I remember thinking I could get up if I wanted to, but was unsure how that would go so I decided to lie there not move and completely surrender to it. The noise from the fridge motor running was pretty predominate and interesting audio wise , which I had a feeling might be before hand.

The come down was dam fast. One moment I was totally engulfed in it and the next I was staring at my normal ceiling. Nice after glow, reminiscent of my 5-MeO trip. Very interested in what lies beyond.